{"id":3873,"date":"2005-10-30T18:39:53","date_gmt":"2005-10-30T18:39:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.tmcnet.com\/blog\/rich-tehrani\/e-commerce\/susan-kennedy-transcript.html"},"modified":"2005-10-30T18:39:53","modified_gmt":"2005-10-30T18:39:53","slug":"susan-kennedy-transcript","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.tmcnet.com\/blog\/rich-tehrani\/technology\/susan-kennedy-transcript.html","title":{"rendered":"Susan Kennedy Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font size=\"2\">Here is the text of Commissioner Susan Kennedy\u2019s speech at <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tmcnet.com\/voip\/conference\/\"><font size=\"2\">Internet Telephony Conference &amp; Expo<\/font><\/a><font size=\"2\"> from last week in <place w:st=\"on\" \/><city w:st=\"on\" \/>Los Angeles<\/city \/><\/place \/>. She did an outstanding job and had the audience laughing at 8:00 am. This is no easy feat and she backed up an amazingly charismatic presentation with content that was second to none. If there is one theme I kept hearing throughout the show it was that regulators have an amazing challenge in a world where consumers use VoIP to communicate. They don\u2019t really understand it and are trying to regulate around it and potentially regulate VoIP as if it is the PSTN.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the transcript of the speech:<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Commissioner Susan P. Kennedy<br \/>Internet Telephony Conference<br \/>October 24, 2005<br \/>Los Angeles<\/p>\n<p>VoIP:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><br \/>A Consumer\u2019s Dream; A Regulator\u2019s Nightmare<\/p>\n<p>Good morning.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>I\u2019m sure that many of you looked at the program and wondered why on Earth you\u2019re being asked to listen to a member of the Public Utilities Commission before your coffee has kicked in.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>At 7:30 in the morning, believe me, I\u2019m wondering what I\u2019m doing here myself.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Most of you in this room don\u2019t know me, and if you have good kharma in this life, you never will.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>I\u2019m a regulator.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>That means: I\u2019m from the government and I\u2019m here to help.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>I regulate electric utilities, gas companies, water utilities and telephone companies. In fact, public utility commissioners are among the most powerful regulators in any state, and depending on your position in the regulatory food chain, you either love me, hate me, need me, or fear me. <\/p>\n<p>If you are a company that offers traditional phone service like SBC or Verizon you love me \u2013 because I strongly believe that the 130-year-old web of legacy regulations attached to voice telephony should be dismantled in favor of competition.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Not tinkered with; Not updated \u2013 taken out and burned.<\/p>\n<p>If you are a traditional consumer advocate you hate me for the same reason \u2013 because I strongly believe that the power of choice in the hands of a consumer is a much more effective way to protect consumers than regulation.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>I believe most traditional regulation today actually hurts innovative competitors and hurts consumers.<\/p>\n<p>If you are a competitive voice service provider that relies on interconnection with the legacy network you <i>need<\/i> me \u2013 because for the foreseeable future you need regulation to ensure access to the PSTN, non-discriminatory interconnection rates, and fair arbitration of disputes with network owners.<\/p>\n<p>And if you are a VoIP provider, you should <i>fear<\/i> me \u2013 because you are the single biggest threat to the regulatory regime upon which my whole world is based.<\/p>\n<p>VoIP changes everything.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>It revolutionizes communication as we know it. It liberates consumers by freeing every medium \u2013 whether it\u2019s copper, cable, fiber or radiowave \u2013 from the silos in which communication is limited, trapped and then fed to consumers by those who own the network.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And it is shifting control of the consumer experience away from the central office and out to the edges \u2013 irreversibly placing market power into the hands of consumers.<\/p>\n<p>VoIP also erases everything we know about regulation.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p>For the last 100 years, the entire regulatory world has been organized around the length of a pair of copper wires; the location of a central office; where a call originates or terminates; and whether a signal was in the form of an analog wave carrying a human voice or a digitized packet carrying data. <\/p>\n<p>Our jurisdiction is based on the physical lines that tell us where a local call ends and a long-distance call begins; the technical definition that separates telecommunication services from information services.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>These lines serve as our operating manual \u2013 they tell us who to regulate, who pays taxes &amp; fees, who pays access charges or reciprocal compensation, who provides 911 emergency services, 411 information, and who\u2019s subject to the Commission\u2019s service quality standards, financial auditing and customer protection rules.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p>These lines are <i>source of our power<\/i>.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And VoIP erases them all.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>With a few strings of computer code \u2013 you\u2019ve upended 130 years of regulatory certainty.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And what you have to fear from this uncertainty is fear itself.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Because nothing motivates people quite the way fear does:<br \/>Regulators fear losing jurisdiction<br \/>Legislators fear loss of funding for social programs like universal service or tax dollars<br \/>Big incumbent telcos fear loss of access charges<br \/>And rural telcos fear loss of massive subsidies and they fear a low-cost competitor that will eat their lunch.<\/p>\n<p>This fear is well-placed.<br \/><\/font><u><br \/><font size=\"2\">VoIP disrupts the tax base<\/font><\/u><font size=\"2\">.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Estimates are that telecommunications companies and their customers pay an average effective tax rate that is 250% higher than the tax rate for all other industries with the exception of electric utilities.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>In some local jurisdictions the total taxes paid by telecom consumers is more than 25% of the customer\u2019s bill.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p>The Multi-State Tax Commission issued a report during the Congressional debate over extension of the ban on Internet taxes estimating that if the telecommunications industry migrates its services to the Internet, and the ban on telecom taxes migrates with it, the revenue loss to state and local governments would be upwards of $22 billion. That\u2019s a lot of tax revenue.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Even more ominous than that \u2013 organizations that advocate for public services are calculating the impact of tax preemption on IP- telephony in terms of the number of teachers, policemen and firefighters that will be laid off if VoIP remains tax-exempt.<\/p>\n<p><u>VoIP disrupts universal service funding<\/u>. In 2003, my Commission issued a report to the California Legislature indicating that the migration to IP-telephony (if left unregulated) will lead to a 40% reduction in funding for universal service programs, including high-cost funds and deaf and disabled programs, by 2008.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Understand something &#8211; to policymakers &#8211; <i>those are fighting words<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p><u>VoIP disrupts the regulatory detente<\/u> that has governed relations between states and the federal government for decades.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>States like <state w:st=\"on\" \/>California<\/state \/>, <state w:st=\"on\" \/>Michigan<\/state \/> and <place w:st=\"on\" \/><state w:st=\"on\" \/>New York<\/state \/><\/place \/> all tried to put stakes in the ground to declare jurisdiction over VoIP providers \u2013 using the \u201cif it quacks like a duck\u201d test.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>In October of 2003, Commission staff in <place w:st=\"on\" \/><state w:st=\"on\" \/>California<\/state \/><\/place \/> sent a letter out to all VoIP providers in the State that ordered all VoIP providers to file an application with the C<br \/>\nommission for authority to conduct business in the state just like a traditional telephone utility.<\/p>\n<p>I managed to open a proceeding to investigate the jurisdictional questions this raised, which postponed any enforcement actions in California long enough to let the FCC step in and preempt states from regulating VoIP.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And the FCC did take the very important step of preempting most state regulation of VoIP in the Vonage decision.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But that was just the first battle in this IP insurgency.<\/p>\n<p>Until Congress rewrites key portions of the 1996 Telecommunications Act, or until regulators and policymakers are overtaken by technological events, every aspect of Internet telephony will continue to be a battleground.<\/p>\n<p>State regulators will continue to take incremental steps to impose price controls, taxes, fees and consumer protection rules on VoIP on the theory that \u201ca duck is a duck,\u201d and believing that \u201cparity\u201d means regulating \u201cup\u201d \u2013 in other words, making sure that both the traditional phone service and the new generation of telecom services operate under the same yoke of regulation.<\/p>\n<p>Here in <place w:st=\"on\" \/><state w:st=\"on\" \/>California<\/state \/><\/place \/> that theory was taken to an extreme when my commission last year passed a 250-page omnibus \u201cTelecommunications Consumer Bill of Rights\u201d attempting to expand traditional monopoly regulation to virtually anyone providing voice services for a fee including wireless and VoIP providers.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>We did this under provisions in the 1996 Act that expressly give states jurisdiction over \u201cterms and conditions\u201d of service.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>So don\u2019t assume that the FCC\u2019s Vonage decision puts you safely out of reach of state regulators.<\/p>\n<p>After a huge battle, we suspended those rules when Governor Schwarzenegger\u2019s new appointees joined the Commission this year, but the battle is not over.<\/p>\n<p>Another example of old crashing into new is the FCC\u2019s order for VoIP providers to meet a sharp deadline to provide E911 services.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>As well-intended as the FCC\u2019s decision is \u2013 and I can\u2019t say that if I was in Chairman Martin\u2019s shoes that I could have done anything different \u2013 the practical result is that we\u2019re forcing VoIP technologies to gerry-rig a system in order to operate within the old legacy network, instead of building a new architecture based on newer, more efficient IP-based services.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p>The messiest collision on the horizon, though, is intercarrier compensation<u>.<\/u><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Until the FCC finishes a major overhaul of the way carriers compensate each other for connecting calls \u2013 and deals with the inevitable impact on rural carriers who rely on massive subsidies through access charges and universal service funding \u2013 IP telephony will likely get saddled with many of the same costs and fees that traditional phone providers pay to support the PSTN in rural areas.<\/p>\n<p>Nomadic VoIP providers will be difficult to saddle.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>For example a customer with a 310 phone number (in the Los Angeles area code) could be living in New York and make a VoIP call from their 310 number to another 310 number while sitting in their apartment in Manhattan.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>From a technology perspective, that\u2019s a non-issue.<\/p>\n<p>But for a regulator, it\u2019s a <i>nightmare.<\/i><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Is that a local call or a long distance call?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Do they pay \u201crecip comp\u201d or access charges?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Whose customer is it \u2013 <state w:st=\"on\" \/>California<\/state \/>\u2019s or <state w:st=\"on\" \/><place w:st=\"on\" \/>New York<\/place \/><\/state \/>\u2019s?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Who decides these issues \u2013 the State commission based on the customer\u2019s billing address or the state to which the area code is assigned?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>What happens if <state w:st=\"on\" \/>New York<\/state \/> decides it\u2019s a local call and <place w:st=\"on\" \/><state w:st=\"on\" \/>California<\/state \/><\/place \/> decides it\u2019s a long distance call?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Where does the carrier go to resolve a compensation dispute \u2013 <state w:st=\"on\" \/>California<\/state \/>, <place w:st=\"on\" \/><state w:st=\"on\" \/>New York<\/state \/><\/place \/> or the FCC?<\/p>\n<p>These are not the kind of problems that lend themselves to piecemeal or incremental solutions \u2013 because when you pull on one string, the fabric comes undone.<\/p>\n<p>I would like to see a complete overhaul of the 1996 Act, but I will settle for a narrow approach that walls off IP telephony from state regulation and gives the FCC the time and, most importantly, the authority to sort these issues out. <\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m afraid an overall solution designed for a new world will not come from Congress anytime soon, because these issues are simply too sticky.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>There are too many constituents with vested interests in preserving some piece of the status quo to allow meaningful reform to make it through the legislative process.<\/p>\n<p>But we don\u2019t have much time.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>When these mergers are done and the big companies have time to focus on the competitive landscape, and when enough traffic migrates to IP platforms to impact the revenue streams of the large network owners \u2013 these compensation and interconnection disputes will become more serious.<\/p>\n<p>Additionally, as more and more traffic migrates to IP platforms and away from the PSTN, more costs will be loaded on those services that do pay into the universal service fund \u2013 which will raise costs even more for consumers using those services.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>This will, in turn, drive even more customers to lower cost alternatives like VoIP \u2013 which will in turn put even more pressure on the remaining services to financially support the PSTN.<\/p>\n<p>This is a malignant cycle that hurts customers, hurts competition and hurts any service that uses the PSTN.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>It is imperative that the FCC change the funding mechanism to one that is technology and platform neutral.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>I believe the only mechanism for the foreseeable future, at least as a transition, is one that places a small monthly fee on all numbers from the North American Numbering Plan.<\/p>\n<p>I know some ask what the purpose of the Universal Service Fund today, with so many low cost alternatives out there.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But don\u2019t kid yourself.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Congress will not allow the Universal Service Fund to whither away.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>That\u2019s not going to happen.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>So you had better get behind a solution you can live with before you end up like the wireless industry \u2013 they are just about the largest contributors to the fund, passing enormous costs onto their customers, yet few are able to receive funds in return.<\/p>\n<p>The real regulatory battle for the future of Internet telephony will be on the issue of \u201cNet neutrality.\u201d Regulators are in a tough spot on this one.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>I have to tell you, I am a strong believer in using all the regulatory tools at my disposal to ensure customers have access to the services of their choice.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But for the better part of this year now I have been asking everyone I come across to tell me how to write it.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>No one seems to know how to do it without being dangerously vague or rigid.<\/p>\n<p>I moderated a panel at VON in <place w:st=\"on\" \/><city w:st=\"on\"\n\/>Boston<\/city \/><\/place \/> a few months ago on this very topic, and despite the passion in the room for \u201cNet neutrality\u201d no two people could define something as simple as the definition of \u201cdiscrimination\u201d in the same way.<\/p>\n<p>Network operators do have legitimate issues concerning bandwidth management, traffic flow and network security that could easily be considered discrimination by some definitions.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>For example, blocking access to websites that are advertised in spam messages would be a form of discrimination; Asymmetrical bandwidth flows are by default a form of discrimination; Differential pricing, bundling and co-marketing agreements all favor some customers and products while others pay more.<\/p>\n<p>There is no \u201cone-size-fits-all.\u201d<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But, more importantly, it is very, very difficult \u2013 if not impossible \u2013 to write a regulation that allows for some types of discrimination but prohibits others \u2013 because any regulation that by definition involves making a judgment call (\u201cthis type of discrimination is ok\u201d), at best becomes unenforceable and at worst becomes a maze of endless litigation. This is coming from a regulator who strongly supports the principle of Net neutrality, but who could not find a way to write it into regulation without causing much more harm than good.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s very different from what I would consider blatantly anti-competitive acts such as port-blocking, or the use of filtering technologies designed to block Internet phone services without the users knowledge or consent.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The FCC demonstrated in the <place w:st=\"on\" \/>Madison River<\/place \/> case that it has the power to prevent anti-competitive actions by network owners (without needing new regulations), and that it is willing to use that power.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a little harder to intercede where contract provisions are involved.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>The <i>Wall Street Journal<\/i> had an article just last week about Verizon Wireless and Vodafone subscription contracts that bar the use of their high-speed EvDO networks for Internet calling.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>I\u2019m a Verizon wireless customer and I found that very disturbing.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p>But you know what? I don\u2019t have to stay a Verizon customer.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Cingular provides the same service where I live in the <place w:st=\"on\" \/><city w:st=\"on\" \/>San Francisco<\/city \/><\/place \/> area, and if I wait just a little while longer, Google may give me all the Web access I need while I\u2019m in The City.<\/p>\n<p>Cable companies had these exact same types of provisions a few years ago preventing customers from using home servers and attaching certain devices to their home network.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Market forces made those provisions bad for business a lot faster than it would have take to remove them a regulation.<\/p>\n<p>I have come to believe that we have to approach the issue of Net neutrality like we do the right to free speech or privacy.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>What constitutes speech or privacy is not necessarily defined in statute \u2013 these are <i>principles<\/i> that are enforced on a case by case basis and codified in a dynamic and robust body of case law.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p>I believe the FCC should address this issue on a case by case basis until a problem materializes that consumers cannot fix on their own through the power of choice in a free market.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, where customer choices are being limited by blatantly anti-competitive actions, regulators should be fearless about stepping in.<\/p>\n<p>My commission released its proposed decisions in both the SBC and Verizon mergers last week, and in those decisions \u2013 which approve both mergers \u2013 you will find a condition that requires both companies to end the practice of forcing customers to buy traditional voice service from them as a condition of accessing DSL.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>I pushed for this because I believe competitive VoIP providers are at a distinct and artificial disadvantage if a customer who wants to use their service is forced to pay twice for the privilege.<\/p>\n<p>I can make the argument that a customer can simply switch to cable broadband if they want to use a competitive VoIP service, but many states like California are in the middle of trying to eliminate most economic regulation on traditional voice services \u2013 and I\u2019m simply not willing to do that as long as these companies make it harder for consumers to go to their competition.<\/p>\n<p>And we\u2019re not trying to regulate naked DSL.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Let me repeat that.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>We\u2019re not trying to regulate DSL.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>SBC and Verizon don\u2019t have to comply with our request, just like we don\u2019t have to approve the mergers within any reasonable period of time. And we don\u2019t have to give them relief from legacy regulation any time soon.<\/p>\n<p>Verizon\u2019s already said they are planning to offer it \u2013 before we made it a merger condition \u2013 and I believe SBC will follow.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Because a competitive market forced them to do it \u2013 not regulators.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>We\u2019re just helping to move them along.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s how regulators can actually help Internet telephony thrive \u2013 by knowing when to step in and when to lie in wait.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>There\u2019s an old prayer I\u2019ve started using to guide me.<\/p>\n<p>God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot fix through regulation; The Courage to step in when I need to; and the Wisdom to know who\u2019s paying for it.<\/p>\n<p>I will leave you with that.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Thank you very much.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here is the text of Commissioner Susan Kennedy\u2019s speech at Internet Telephony Conference &amp; Expo from last week in Los Angeles. She did an outstanding job and had the audience laughing at 8:00 am. This is no easy feat and she backed up an amazingly charismatic presentation with content that was second to none. 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