By David Sims
[email protected]
The news as of the first coffee this morning, and the music
is Sony’s compilation Pop Music: The
Golden Era, 1951-1975 released in 1999. Nice variety of artists from Frank
Sinatra to LaBelle, Louis Armstrong to Bob Dylan:
First CoffeeSM’s post on what terrible customer service online retailer Caiman.com provides gets
another assent from yet another
screwed-over Caiman.com customer.
Frankly First CoffeeSM’s wondering whether terrible customer service provided by such companies
is a concern of Amazon.com or not. It’s time to find out.
Because it’s one thing to report on Customer Relationship
Management news and issues, and offer insights and pointers on good customer
service, that’s great and First CoffeeSM likes doing that, but there
are times when something needs to be done in the real world, and it’s time for Amazon.com to do something
about Caiman.com.
It started when Caiman.com
promised a fictitious ship-by date on a CD First CoffeeSM
mild-mannered reporter alter ego ordered from Amazon.com. Their customer “service”
afterwards was insulting, canned and rude, so it made a great article, Three
Ways To Lose Customers.
Reader Greg
Veeser wrote in to say yup, same thing happened to me. Another
reader wrote in to say she was jerked around, treated shabbily and rudely
by Caiman.com. S Bagby
wrote to say Caiman.com ignored their ship-by date – a common practice with
them, evidently – and let him know they
didn’t care. Here’s
a thread on E6 Townhall showing the
truth behind Caiman.com’s claims about what they have in stock.
On the Amazon.com site itself burned
Caiman.com customers show how Caiman.com
promises one thing and ships another. Another sadder
but wiser online buyer says “Note: DO NOT BUY FROM CAIMAN.cOM… they are a
huge hassel. I ordered two of these from them and they couldnt get the order
right even after 8 emails and 3 months.” And pity poor Lacie, who
made the mistake of ordering from Caiman.com.
Again, the point is not to be perfect. Nobody’s perfect – not
Caiman.com, First CoffeeSM not any online retailer. The point is a)
to be truthful about what you have and when you can ship it, and b) when
customers complain, be clear and courteous in resolving their problem. That’s
what Caiman.com should be doing that they’re not doing.
Lu is but the latest victim of Caiman.com to write to First
CoffeeSM. “I got little comfort from hearing that I’m not the only
one who has experienced the terrible service from Caiman,” Lu writes. “Please
find below the exchange from Caiman after we have been trying for MONTHS to get
hold of one CD for my boss – I think this will speak for itself. Amazon should have nothing to do with these
guys when the customer service is this poor.”
Here’s Lu’s first e-mail:
RE: CD to be purchased,
Order Date: 31 Mar 2005
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to:[email protected]
Dear Sir/Madam,
Despite ordering this
item a few months back, we are yet to receive the item. Please could you let me
know the status of this order?
Kind regards,
And Caiman.com’s canned reply:
Dear Customer,
We regret to inform
you that at this time, the item XXXXX
you ordered is in back order. It will take 2 to 3 weeks to ship. If you wish,
we can cancel your order or keep it open. Please let me know. We apologize for
the inconvenience.
Lu sends back a nice e-mail saying “please keep our order
alive thanks – (would appreciate updates if the items take longer than a couple
of weeks yet to ship.)” Caiman.com responds “Thank you for your patience. We will continue to process your order until
further notice.”
All very nice. Then, weeks later, this from Lu:
Well, I think you have
had more than 2 to 3 weeks on this now – please can you tell me the REAL status
of my order,
Thank you,
Caiman.com’s incomprehensible response:
Dear Customer,
Per your request, we
have canceled your order:
We are processing a
refund immediately but it can take up to 72 hours to have it complete. We
apologize for the inconvenience.
Sincerely,
What? Lu’s bewildered e-mail back:
Dear Caiman,
I never asked for this
order to be cancelled - I just wanted the CD - what are you people doing?
Get your act together
and tell me if it is possible to get this CD or not - I have been waiting on
this order since MARCH, and what’s more, I had no idea that you had charged me
BEFORE you even knew if you could get the item!
If you don’t give me a
pertinent and clear explanation of your actions, I will be calling both your
boss and Amazon to tell them all about the quality of service that you guys are
giving your customers.
Your extremely angry
customer,
And Caiman.com’s effort to placate their customer and save
the relationship:
Dear Customer,
Unfortunately, we will
not be able to offer any additional insight or action on these matters.
There. Dear Customer: Screw you, idiot. It’s your fault for
trying to do business with weasels like us. Sincerely, Caiman.com.
First CoffeeSM’s gotten more than one complaint
about Caiman.com from readers after telling of his own terrible experience with
this thoroughly untrustworthy company – their “thanks for your patience”
followed by “we’ve cancelled your order” e-mail diptych is the same one reader Greg
Veeser reported.
First CoffeeSM is going to send these
customer complaints to the appropriate person at Amazon and see if we can improve
the overall customer service at Amazon.com. If Caiman.com needs to be dumped
over the side to protect the integrity of the “In Stock” claims other
Amazon.com vendors make, and to maintain the reputation of Amazon.com itself, so
be it. CRM in real life.
Because if jerks like Caiman.com are allowed to operate with
impunity on Amazon.com, why should we trust any of their vendors?
We’ll keep you posted on whether or not customer service is a priority with Amazon.com or not.
By the way, anybody else having trouble with Caiman.com,
call ‘em up: (305) 262-4973 or send a fax to (305) 468-3892.
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Caiman sent me a used music CD in a cracked case. Not what was advertised. No response to requests to refund or replace.
Never buy from this awful place. t