We write thousands of stories each month at TMCnet and occasionally among all of this content we get a response to an article which is threatening or involves profanity towards us or one of our writers. Having said that, I happened to forward news about xG Technology to my editorial team a while back and I mentioned to them to be sure to research it carefully as the company is very controversial.
Why are they controversial? Well because they seem to make claim after claim regarding wireless technology which is claimed to be 25 times cheaper than comparable WiMAX equipment at 1,000 times the efficiency - yet it isn't widely deployed. These are not new claims by the way, they are years old.
On the face of it these stats are similar to saying you have created a fusion reactor in a paper cup - and if this is a real technology why is it not being sent to editors worldwide so we can see it for ourselves?
In order to determine the real story, Senior TMC Web Editor Patrick Barnard wrote an article which was well-researched on xG technology and in response he and I both received an email referring to him in a profane manner and the email concluded with a request to have me fire him.
The writer of this email didn't submit any facts which we should be aware of, they just decided to lash out at Patrick for writing a great and balanced article which seemed to conflict with his point of view.
Here is the big mistake made by the e-mailer. TMC has a 37-year long commitment with our readers to provide the best content we can. This means we don't fire editors who write stories which shine light on potentially problem companies. Instead we congratulate them and use them as role models. Our readers look to us to provide unbiased information and TMC is one of the oldest and most well-established global media brands because we do our best to do so.
I invite you to read this article from Pat and let us know what you think. I for one think it is quality work and wish more stories I read had the depth of reporting and linking of this piece.



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The article by Patrick was HORRIBLY researched and filled with lies and innuendo...if you think any reader worth anything has the time or inclination to point out mistakes made by you or your staff, you are sadly mistaken.
Ok here are a few...
xG never stated they have deals with any Florida Telco in their press release, yet Patrick says they did...well, either they did or didn´t.
Patrick refers to a blog which states it is there for speculation and fun, and hasn´t been active in 4 months, and is under a court ordered cease and desist order for negative baloney about xG...he also refers to a website made and run by Phil Karn, an obsessed mid level engineer who has been crying about xG for 3 years.
The article by Patrick was horribly written, horribly researched and even Patrick admits there was a bit of frustration behind this....
You and others have some vendetta against profanity...are you all pastors of some church I didn´t know about?
Someone should speak to Carl Ford who has recently visited the xG labs, made mobile VoIP calls, and spoken with the engineers.
Rich,
You´re another liar...where is the profanity or the threats? Pull up your skirt you little girl...this is a mans world. Where are the threats you delicate little flower?
Marc, sine you have this forum, would it not make sense to actually make a logical, well thought-out case? People who use intimidation and name-calling as a defense are often covering up their own insecurities and the terms they choose often reflect on their inner-most fears. I am sure your therapist has shared these thoughts with you already. I suggest you stop making yourself look poorly in the eyes of the world and present a factual argument.
Marc, since you have this forum, would it not make sense to actually make a logical, well thought-out case? People who use intimidation and name-calling as a defense are often covering up their own insecurities and the terms they choose often reflect on their inner-most fears. I am sure your therapist has shared these thoughts with you already. I suggest you stop making yourself look poorly in the eyes of the world and present a factual argument.
Ooooo, Rachael, so mobile comms. is not the only thing you cannot do so you write about it...I see you are a wannabe shrink. Why is it everyone wants to be a shrink?
Look poorly in the eyes of the world, lol, that´s fairly presumptuous of you to think the world sees your blog. If I cared what the world thought, I would be writing the news instead of making it.
As far as having a logical thought out case, Rich...You First! As far as I can tell, It´s taking too long is not logical or thought out, nor are yours and Patricks latest lies and childish innuendo.
Patricks and this article has been said to be "good", by the 3 or 4 brainless obsessors of xG.
Patricks article is the worst article written since anyone started writing about xG. Patrick states wrongly that investors are complaining. It´s not investors, amazingly enough...it´s Phil Karn the obsessed low level Qualcomm geek, ít´s a drunken bar owner, and it´s a Viet Cong sweatshop owner....that´s one reference. The other is a blog that is non functioning due to a cease and desist order on it. That´s your second source of "oft criticized". A one man show webpage and a non functioning blog under cease and desist.
Rich, seriously, my kid is 9 and he would have written a better article 4 years ago. Patrick is a liar, and you swear to it...pathetic.
Anyone who feels this is a good representation of xG or even a professionally written article...well you know what position you´re in.
This means we don't fire editors who write stories which shine light on potentially problem companies. Instead we congratulate them and use them as role models. Our readers look to us to provide unbiased information and TMC is one of the oldest and most well-established global media brands because we do our best to do so.
You both should be fired.
Potentially problem companies?
Of course you congratulate them on brutal research, lying in their reports, and extending their research to Google searches and quotes by anonymous nobodies, your budget is 10 cents a year.
The poster Marc has followed and harassed everyone that aren't bullish on xG for years. I agree, he's a pathetic fool that you laugh at as his posts are always totally irrelevant and abusive. xG has been pushed by obscure people for years and yet the company hasn't delivered anything that verifies any of their claims . Many people including myself believe the company is a nothing but a scam and time will soon tell. Just check the share price along with all "news releases" and you will get a pretty good picture of what this company is about
this poster backbooner is a vietnamese sweatshop owner who has been harassing every shareholder of xG and xG themeselves for over 2 years. He is bitter because he told his buddy not to buy the IPO and it went up 4 times.
Nobody and I mean nobody is more obscure than a Vietnamese sweatshop owner.
I'm not bitter, I just want to warn people for this company that according to me is a scam.
Anyone who bought the IPO and that didn't manage to get out in time (very few did) is not very happy today with IPO at 5 and today's bid at $0.50
Nope, you´re bitter...I would be too if I was a genetic time bomb.
You're bitter because you're broke due to the fall in the share price - I'm sorry for you but you can only blame yourself. You've contributed a lot to that fall by posting abuse all over the internet.
Typical idiot, yep, I´m the reason there is no proof of a network so idiots like you can feel and touch what I know for years. Obsessing over my finances as an anon Viet Cong...scary.
Charlie, INCOMING!
Well, it's a fact there is no proof of a network despite yourself, xG and other supporters saying launch is imminent for the past two years. If xG is not a scam it's run by complete fools.
this is coming from a Viet Cong who runs a sweat shop.
Lord have mercy.
I think it´s great the other 3 idiots on iii have a need to talk about me. Dunkstar, I know you´re reading this...why are you obsessed with me and xG? There is not one ounce of guts between you, Rich, the drunk, the geek, and "dunkstar"...
Well, I'm not Viet Cong and xG hasn't delivered anything but meaningless press releases so what's your point?
Just read the press releases and look how much that has materialized......NOTHING - fools or a scam?
Sure you´re not, buddy...sure you´not.
If it weren't for Marc, I wouldn't give a sh** about XG either way. But simply because of his behaviour the past few years I am going to enjoy XG's collapse immensely.
Bart, you and your fellow retards have been calling for the "collapse" for 2 years and it hasn´t happened. When are you going to give it up and admit that xG and I are your master? Too funny. It just gets bigger and better, and retards like you Bart are slipping under the bus.
Bart, ya moron, let me ask you a question....why is it that the internet anonymous dreg anti xG gang is made up of serious below average to average intelligent people while everyone who would be considered smart by societal standards is on the xG bandwagon?
When this is over, Bart the obsessed mutt, you can have my autograph...lol.
"Bart, you and your fellow retards have been calling for the "collapse" for 2 years and it hasn´t happened."
xG peaked at $17 and is now at $0.50 - if that isn't a collapse I don't know what is. Wake up Marc, it's game over and what we all are waiting for is the administrative collapse.
Charlie, .50 is 65 million....1 is 130 million.
Do you or any of your ancestors have that kind of money, you rice paddy cockroach?
"Charlie, .50 is 65 million....1 is 130 million."
That's exactly why I would recommend anyone who holds xG to sell asap. I had target price $0.60 that I lowered to $0.25 and now my new target is $0.01-0.05
Yeah, Charlie, but you´re a Viet Cong with 3 eyelids, who is going to believe you? You didn´t answer the question Charlie.
......AND - it's so fun to know the theoretical value of your 500k xG shares when it was trading above $10 and where it is today. If you're lucky you'll get an average of $0.25 if you try to sell them, i.e. $125.000 - Moahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
Got a million of them, Charlie, and if they all go to 0, I will still thank my lucky stars the Lord didn´t make me a Gook.
They aint got nuthin, and they been lying all the way. Investors just gotta face it, it aint coming and they been suckered.
Marc, you sound bitter. Did you lose money on this stock?
Elton, I haven´t lost a dime on this stock.
I sound bitter? LOL, there are 4 degenerate peons who are on my jock, but I sound bitter...goddamn the world is full of retards.
Hey nacho, so everyone with a brain has been lying and the 5 retards have been right? I think not.
All anti xG´ers have some type of mental or physical disability. Why is that?
Morons, please, please tell me, have any of you built anything worth 130 mil?
I believe it would take peons like Nacho, Elton and the Gook 50 lifetimes to do that.
All of you obsessed with me and xG...you should have known better than to come up against someone like me.
Too bad.
People, People, step away from my jock...None of you can hold a candle to me with regards to my abilities, my vision, my intellect, or my physical and mental abilities...why try? It´s pathetic. 95 percent of you shouldn´t exist in the first place if the proper measures were put in place.
Hey Charlie, You and your merry band of anon internet thugs are going down, and when I mean down, I mean jail time for you.
Also, what xG will be for investors amounts to the greatest financial instrument in the history of investing.
You people who question, you have every right to do so...you who obsess over xG and me for YEARS...I understand why. You have never seen, nobody has, what xG will mean for an industry so embedded in our lives as communications is.
You are right on target to obsess.
Dude,
Face it, the "retards" are actually right. xG aint showing no one shit, cause they aint got shit, and they been hiding behind NDAs. If they had shit, Townes would have signed. And Dude, chillout, u acting real crazy, scraems and insults aint gonna change shit, 'cept telling us all u mad and broke
Dude,
Aint nuthin you can say will help XG now. Acting crazy aint gonnna help. Try chilling out some. Xg been lying about their claims, networks, progress and you been sucking it all up. If they had anything Townes would have signed. Ya dont need 4 months to sign a document. Townes aint interested. Game over!!
M&B gave Marc a "deal", selling him one million shares at 1.50 just before listing on the AIM at 5.00. But they were restricted shares and he couldn't sell them when the price rose as high as $17.
They're no longer restricted, but even now he can't sell them because nobody wants to buy. While they're currently worth $500k on paper, he'd be lucky to get $25k for the whole lot because any significant selling would send the share price south of 0.01 overnight.
hey Rich, you should pay me a royalty buddy, this is the most popular blog in recent history for you.
Nacho, telling me to chill out while coming across as a hood...interesting, add another retard to the list.
Nach, baby, you have no idea how long it takes to form a corp. with hundreds of different companies to negotiate as one with xG. Matter of fact Nach...I´m sure your knowledge base falls way short of figuring out how long it takes...it´s the same with all y´all Nach...y´all all up in the kool aid and ya don´t know what flava it be, Nach. Holla atcha boy!
Nacho, Dude!
How long should it take to sign? How long did it take you to sign your last billion dollar deal, Nacho? The way you express yourself tells me ya ain´t got a dime, chief! You´se just a ghetto blasta runnin his grill.
Nacho, ever negotiate a few billion?
The sucka´s are the anon clowns who been jockin me and xG, Nach.
ooooo, and Nacho, I´m acting crazy!!! Wooooo...sitting at my desk, dipping in the pool now and again....so craaaazy, Nacho...
I gets a kick out of y´all painting a mental picture of me, possibly touching yourself while you´re thinking of me and xG....
Yall is on my JOCK!
Dude,
You been to Florida? You been to Lewisville?
Nah, you just a mouth brah...you need to step, or be crushed.
Waaaaah, they didn´t show us!!! Waaaaaah, why????
Yo my brother, you need to check ya self befo you wreck yo self, you feel me, hood?
hey this is fun, brings me back to my roots...I´m sure there are other uneducated momos like Nachoman here...let´s here you.
Just look at the manic Marc and his comments:
"All anti xG´ers have some type of mental or physical disability. Why is that?"
"95 percent of you shouldn´t exist in the first place if the proper measures were put in place."
"Also, what xG will be for investors amounts to the greatest financial instrument in the history of investing."
This person must have some kind of a mental disability. Well well, he should be exceptionally happy seeing the stock at $0.50, that's still a market cap of $65 Mio, $60 Mio more than what it's worth
what´s a mio, charlie?
Why is this PR not communicated to market?
xG has issued another useless press release saying they can make some calls with xMax - http://xgtechnology.com/news_pr_8_10_09.asp
1. No mentioning of independent verification
2. No mentioning under what conditions the "calls" were made
3. Joe Bobier (CTO) says: "Our successful call completion experience proves that we are on the right track" - on the right track? xG has for years claimed they've had customers, prepayments, deployed systems and now "they're on the right track"? Has the company lied to the market for years on purpose?
4. No mentioning of any customers - what has happened to Telefonica, Gama, National Grid, Townes? Were these just lies?
After all information from xG on the tech, roll-out, customers etc, why on earth would anyone believe one word of this? I just don't get it! This is one of their weaker press releases and it feels very very desperate.
Hilarious post from obsessed Beerson about the dead Shannnon, he´s going crazy over there. Really funny.
Beerson, shannon´s dead. Meet Bobier. Couldn´t be jamming, right Beerson, I mean nobody ever jammed a demo before...especially a demo that was announced as to where and when....as a matter of fact ya dope, there´s no such thing as jammers...it´s all a fairy tale made up by xG.
Man Beerson, you´re dumb.
There's little to say about xG that hasn't already been said many times, so I don't regularly check the related forums anymore. So I just discovered this article. Glad to see that the journalists are starting to uncover this company and its questionable claims and supporters.
This started for me over two years ago when I came across a press article gushing over xG's claims and realized that they contained numbers that could be analyzed. I found that the performance being touted as so earthshaking was actually well within (or behind) the state of the art. So I put a page on my website and moved on.
A few days later, I got my first email from marc (copied on my website). I have hundreds more, and most are much worse. For some reason, my wife is the subject of many of them, and she's not a communications engineer.
Apparently marc spends his days scouring the net looking for mentions of xG and harasses anyone who dares to speak unfavorably of them, especially anyone with a background in communication engineering. I still get harassing phone calls from him in the middle of the night, sometimes dozens per hour. Last I checked, that's a criminal offense.
And he says I'm obsessed? I wouldn't have given xG a second thought had he not emailed me that first time.
Clown the ugly, you have a website dedicated to me.
I simply want to answer any questions you have but you have no guts.
Anyway, it´s very appropriate that you post this. It´s going to be funny to be the cause of your nervous breakdown.
Phil you are a dumb lying sack of excrement...and those are your good points. Ugly and Dumb, what a combo!
The funny thing about about XG, is that for 2 and a half years they've been saying they're about to launch or have launched networks with DD being conducted by potential clients, only for them now JUST have a "pilot" network, that seemingly is of no commercial interest to anyone.
Have any of you heard the xG podcast in the 4G section?
Very Interesting.
these idiots haven´t heard anything...why point them to something factual?
Karn you disgusting dummy, you for sure better not listent to that, your pinhead will explode.
Oh my god, 2 years, 7 years, you anti dummies really know how long it takes to do what they are doing....the stupidity amongst the anti xG´ers should be bottled and used as a war weapon as a pre attack strategy.
shannon is dead.
Phil Karn, aka the disgustingly hideous low level geek from Qualcomm obsessed with me and xG for years...if you thought those articles were gushing, have a listen to that podcast...lol....lol....lol....what a dummy you are to come up against me. LOL. You are about to be buried, in a strong sense of the word, certainly reputation wise.
Just to add, anyone coming up against me in any way shape or form is a loser from the word get.
Hey Ugly Phil, I just found another article from 2007 that you decided to chase up here in late 2009...really pathetic....aren´t you the one who scourges the internet looking for positive articles about xG so you can stink them up with your disgusting views and idiocy? As a matter of fact, all 4 of you anti pieces of garbage do that...
WHAT An EXISTENCE!!!
Phil, Drunk, Gook, and the other anti xG obsessors, are you getting that feeling again...that, "hey, maybe I am nobody after all" feeling? Should do, of course, if you haven´t had it before.
Welcome to reality.
It's sad to see people get so married to a stock that they absolutely flip out when it collapses.
Enough already! xG is dead. Move on.
Bart, you obsessed psycho, the funny part is it´s just beginning...I hope I am a great cause of your insanity.
lol
Hey Bart, you disgusting stalker of mine, tell you what, I will believe xG is dead if no one hears from you in a year.
If you post about xG again...xG is not dead. Is that fair?
"you obsessed psycho"
Wow. Talk about projection!
You were freaking out two years ago when Phil Karn pushed a pencil and debunked the performance claims and you started your harassment campaign against him. And here, two years later, you're *still* calling him in the middle of the night?!?!?!?!
Marc, you're sick. Seek help.
lol Bart you dummy, he pushes pencils I push digits...what´s the difference moron without a cause?
By the way, jackass, if Clown the Ugly hadn´t published our correspondence calling out for me to ridicule him, ah who gives a shit, bart you obsessed maniac.
Barty I knew you couldn´t stay away...lol, xG is far from dead. You´re not though, in a manner of speaking.
Bart you have admitted you are obsessed with me...well, here is more bad news for you psycho, SHEC is taking off as well! Listen, can I get the obit. when you commit suicide. I want to call the ME and let him know i´m the cause of death. You brought it on yourself, Bart.
Freaking out?
No, all I was doing was making fun of him for actually publishing his nonsense on line. I like to do that to retards like Phil. There are not too many like Phil though, ugly and stupid. God must have hated his parents.
Sorry you picked the wrong side Barty old boy...
Hey ugly, that was over 2 years ago! Relentless bashing before and after that equals OBSESSION! I understand though.
My Photos of the F-A/18 crash that occurred in the University City area of San Diego CA on December 8, 2008. The crash site is about 870 meters due west of our house.
this is from ugly´s website...almost, ugly, almost.
Next time.
Marc "I'm not mentally ill" Dannenberg is acting way more sane than I thought he would by the collapse of xG. Like Bart said Marc, move on, it's game over. And as I emailed you today there are proof that Spartan Mullen totally is lacking creditworthiness and I also know that that is well known among the "xG-mob". Finally it's game over, now there's no way out and I'm bit looking forward to xG part2 where the blame game starts.
Don´t have a clue what you are trying to say, Charlie, but at least you spelled Mullen correctly. Progress has been made.
You know exactly what I'm talking about and you should hide as the other "supporters" are doing. There's a reason for them not pushing this scam anymore but maybe they "forgot" to tell you.......
Sorry buddy, I don´t speak Gook.
LOL IMAGINE ME HIDING FROM YOU LOT!
LOLOLOLOLOL
That´s a good one Charlie.
That Spartan Mullen thing is ridiculous on the face of it. Get real. Somebody buys millions of shares of stock at twice the then-current price, but doesn't pay but rather puts it on a credit card? It was clear from the beginning that this $6 million wasn't real and that SM was just another of the many shenanigans the insiders are pulling.
Speaking of shenanigans... the latest PR said the Townes deal would move by the end of August. September will come with no Townes deal. 2010 will come with no Townes deal.
Six months from now xG will be exactly where it is now, but another deal or two will have been announced and will go nowhere.
And Marc will be screaming even more.
Now watch Marc respond to this message with at least three rambling screeds.
That Spartan Mullen thing is ridiculous on the face of it. Get real. Somebody buys millions of shares of stock at twice the then-current price, but doesn't pay but rather puts it on a credit card
Hey Bart the obsessed anon dreg, good morning...credit card? Oh, I see dummy, leverage is something new to you right?
It was clear from the beginning that this $6 million wasn't real and that SM was just another of the many shenanigans the insiders are pulling.
Funny how all outsiders who dig become insiders, while outsider retards like you, ugly, the drunk and the gook look in and dribble.
Speaking of shenanigans... the latest PR said the Townes deal would move by the end of August. September will come with no Townes deal. 2010 will come with no Townes deal.
Guaranteed you will be here .
Six months from now xG will be exactly where it is now, but another deal or two will have been announced and will go nowhere.
Sure retard, sure.
And Marc will be screaming even more.
Screaming? Jerk off much?
Now watch Marc respond to this message with at least three rambling screeds.
Are you saying you don´t ramble, anon obsessor of mine?
"Hey Bart the obsessed anon dreg, good morning...credit card? Oh, I see dummy, leverage is something new to you right?"
Fact is they sent a check on $1 Million. A check? Christ! $1 Million? Jesus! Does anyone alive believe that one will ever be cashed? I can send anyone a check on $1 Billion but that will bounce too if anyone tries to cash it. Spartan has no money and that's a fact, xG is dead and that's a fact, this time it's over and that's a fact.
Sure gook, it´s over...until tomorrow.
Previous commercial launch dates:
March 2007
August 2007 (Coming soon)
November 2007
December 2007
September/October 2008
November 2008
Early 2009
Currently promoting "pilot" network??
Previous carrier partners:
Far Reach
Fruit and veg company in Florida
Telefonica (extended)
National grid
Gama
Townes (current extended?
all RNS releases to the market. Nomad? Info vetting? Worrying for AIM!
All very satisfied and excited, according to XG, whilst conducting DD.Result: No deals, not even with "Fruit and veg" guys.
Lies or poor project management?
Question: If its taken 7 years to get a pilot network up, how long for a commercial network? Assuming technological superiority? and veracity of claims and statements
OMG, your obsession with xG is disgusting.
VOMIT!!!
Claims of imminent commercial launch have stopped at least.
No longer releasing PR to AIM. Should they be under investigation for previous RNS releases to market?
Question; how d'you see the Townes deal panning out at the end of this month?
So many gutless dummies on the anti side.
Hey gutless anon, why don´t YOU start the "investigation"
DOUBLE VOMIT!!!
These are only statements and questions.
Anon is 100% correct about everything - of course shareholders vomit as they've been screwed and there's no hope of recovering a single cent
Gook, I really hope you and the rest of your dreg anon anti xG gang meet up...I´m sure there will be disabled access available. There will be real vomiting there.
How much are Directors and Execs drawing each month from the company?
What I would like to know is what type of retard would come on an anonymous blog to get the directors pay info?
Never ceases to amaze me the level of stupidity out there.
Hey Jimmy boy, ever try the co´s financials?
Let´s put it this way, they take more in a month than you make in a year.
WASSUP? Jealous?
"Let´s put it this way, they take more in a month than you make in a year."
And they've done so for many years without delivering SHIT! These guys are crooks.
"Let´s put it this way, they take more in a month than you make in a year."
And they've done so for many years without delivering anything, they've just taken money for nothing! These guys should be in jail.
waaaaaaaaah! waaaaaaaaah! another jailhouse fantasy for the gay gook.
One single little poor mentally ill supporter is all that remains - it's sad Sentec, Paradigmshift and D-anus is no longer around. They're probably sitting at home licking their wounds wondering how the f*** they could be that stupid.
Sure gooky, I´m the only one against you rag tag group of anon freak retards...
By now it should be clear to anyone reading these comments that Marc is a bit unstable.
He first hooked up with xG while working for a stock boiler room in Spain. He's been to numerous xG events in Florida, and at one time he was even CEO of a company xG was saying they were going to launch with.
Legitimate companies don't associate with people like Marc.
Don't forget they faked demos when formerly known as iDigi and blew thousands of the then investors money in nightclubs. I believe they played the same trick of faking a demo and when they were unable to pull it off, blaming "jamming".
Nothing seems to have changed. The lies continue only with new targets being taken in. As with all good scams, convince targets you've got the greatest invention of all time and then simply "bait and wait". Announce periodically you're about to launch and continue drawing $30,000 a month salary of investors (targets) cash.
3 and skype have teamed up and are already offering free voip calls. The mobile sector is making huge advances every day, even if XG's lies were true, a Voip network already exists, with superior phones.
Sure, sure bart the anon dreg, just like SHEC.
Legitimate companies DO however have hangers on like you.
You should keep your sexual fantasies about me out of this.
Remember to go back to www.ach.com at the end of this month as the liquidator will certainly say something about Spartan Mullen not paying for the xG shares they said they would buy.
That will be a lot of fun
Remember to go back to www.ach.com at the end of this month as the liquidator will certainly say something about Spartan Mullen not paying for the xG shares they said they would buy.
That will be a lot of fun
It is clear that no one is commercially interested in what they have. In their desperation, XG sent the "Fruit and veg" guys BTS's that seemingly transmitted about as well as the Melons they were selling. Latest desperate measure trying to promote Xmax through Facebook.
These guys are claiming the impossible as Phil Karn has shown.They have no FCC certification, and never will get one.
09 January 2009
"The deployment of our xMax mobile VoIP service in the southern Florida market continues to progress well."
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_1_19_09.asp
04 November 2008
'This update in our deployment schedule allows us to refine our mobile VoIP solution to an even more exacting standard. While we are anxious to demonstrate our exciting handset and base station line to the world, we are committed to delivering the best possible experience to users of our products, as well as to the business partners who will be supplying them. This means allowing our technical team the proper time needed to fine tune our system. We remain on schedule to release the very first mobile VoIP system to the market.'
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_11_04_08.asp
22 September 200
Initial deliveries of the base stations are expected during the closing months of 2008 with the majority of the 1,000 base stations order being completed during 2009.
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_9_22_08.asp
These are all, but a few of the many lies and false statement to the market. There are strong grounds for an investigation
Marc dropped $1.5M of his own money on xG? Explains much, especially if he's highly leveraged and stands to lose everything. Face it, you could have gotten your education much more cheaply. But don't take it out on the messengers.
Lose everything? I´m betting you will be kissing my ass before that happens, anon.
Anon, another question, have you ever seen 1.5 mil?
I´m betting not.
As far as the messengers, lol, who exactly are we talking about? My messengers are all multi millionaires with successful business background...are you referring the the Drunk, the Gook, the low level Geek?
You have to be able to see you are obsessed with me, right?
Pathetic.
Anon dreg, speaking of education, what´s yours? Where did you learn to obsess over successful people like you do?
"As far as the messengers, lol, who exactly are we talking about? My messengers are all multi millionaires with successful business background"
Moahahahahahaaaaaaa, I have heard from Wennerberg that Frederick Wahlman is broke idiot, just like yourself
Sorry gook, don´t know who that is.
Fred was one in your phone list and Wennerberg is a menber of the board of xG
No he´s not, Gook.
what´s a menber, Gook?
I can see you getting excited typing your trash Gook, with that 3rd eyelid smile and those buck teeth....
Really Disgusting, Charlie.
Interesting analysis from Wirelesspro. All a bit sad for Xg and their dreams. As a result of their evident naivety and a lack of real industry knowledge, it would seem this has all been a monumental waste of time and money, just as Phil Karn predicted.
Unlikely anyone would be foolish enough to waste another penny on these guys.
Wow, Anon the dreg did you actually read what wirelessman wrote, or is it you are just too stupid to understand.
All anti´s are retarded, without a doubt, and I LOVE how you dragged ugly karn into your fantasy.
Listen, morons, xG have invited anyone down...are you stupid or what? Do you think they would do that to show a half capable anything?
Never seen anything like this stupidity in my life.
"Listen, morons, xG have invited anyone down...are you stupid or what? Do you think they would do that to show a half capable anything?"
Well, that's what they've been doing since the company started and it ain't going to be any difference now.
The company is a scam and now they're trying to make up for some of it by trying to produce something but as Wireless Pro said, it's just going to be useless crap no one is interested in buying.
oh and by the way you dopey morons, xG is not a PHONE COMPANY...let´s remember you same dopes criticized the co. for choosing the hardest application It´s a tech. co.
How dumb, how dumb.
They still don't have anything to offer of commercial value - sorry Marc.
Please keep on screaming, it's very very entertaining :-D
6 handsets? OH MY GOD!
They probably only HAVE 6 HANDSETS, NOT 10,000, NOT EVEN 4,000
As usual, Wirelessman is half informed, which is I guess better than being uninformed as you morons are.
anyone other than the gook have anything to say.
Your buddy wirelessman goes on to say it´s all speculation.
You morons forgot what Schwartz said...that the world is not ready for Joe´s tech...they had to tone it down.
Morons, your time to run is here.
You should never have come up against me.
"You morons forgot what Schwartz said...that the world is not ready for Joe´s tech"
Wireless guy also said that xG has abandoned Joe's moronic ideas - that in order to produce some useless crap and hope some jerks invest in the scam. Rick&Roger want to keep their monthly compensation
Wireless Guy knows jack shit, but he knows more than you charlie.
The comment about the 6 phones...hilarious...you keep listening to the Geeks, Charlie.
This moron wireless man says the antenna is on a water tower like that is somehow "bad"...
even still, he´s more informed by a large margin than you lot.
The 6 call capability though, that was weak and ridiculous.
Hey dummies, check this out...
http://voip.biz-news.com/news/en_US/2009/08/13/0002/xmax-offers-alternative-path-for-voip-across-mobile-networks
Sad bunch of morons, led by a Gook, a Geek and a Drunk...
Whenever you see an article released you know guys are looking to buy time. Given their track record, you cant trust them. So long as investors keep buying their BS, they’ll keep selling it, and continue drawing their $30,000 a month salaries. They’re even trying to promote their rubbish via Facebook now.
After 7 years of development these guys have a product that transmits about as well as a melon.
A couple of their many lies to the London Stock Exchange:
09 January 2009
"The deployment of our xMax mobile VoIP service in the southern Florida market continues to progress well."
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_1_19_09.asp
04 November 2008
'This update in our deployment schedule allows us to refine our mobile VoIP solution to an even more exacting standard. While we are anxious to demonstrate our exciting handset and base station line to the world, we are committed to delivering the best possible experience to users of our products, as well as to the business partners who will be supplying them. This means allowing our technical team the proper time needed to fine tune our system. We remain on schedule to release the very first mobile VoIP system to the market.' http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_11_04_08.asp
22 September 2008
“Initial deliveries of the base stations are expected during the closing months of 2008 with the majority of the 1,000 base stations order being completed during 2009.
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_9_22_08.asp
Hi Dummies
Yeah suuuuuuuure xG gave up on their modulation technique...that´s why Cambridge is touting them as a company that will drive the globe out of the recession...yeah, it´s common tech...suuuuuuuuure it is...
http://ftcc.co.uk/downloads/Library_presentations/PSBU-P-106%20v1.0.pdf
Wireless pro is an idiot...still not as big of an idiot as Phil Karn, the Gook and the Drunk...but an idiot nonetheless.
xG will be the biggest traded company in the world.
Another comment by the retard Asymptote:
The most telling comment from the xG side was "software updates nearly every day". This tells us that they are still at an alpha stage in development. No serious (sensible) telco will want to spend money on a full field trial until at least beta stability has been reached and that xG can demonstrate something close to the published specification. If Wireless Pro's information is correct, it sounds as if we will have to wait for a new hardware design spin to get to that point. That, in turn, will take time to debug.
Must be time for them to announce another November launch!
Asympdodo, you dumb bunny, by the time xG has everything perfect where is Townes place in the program? Why would xG want anyone like Townes to get involved if they have perfected their equipment...you asses know less about business than you do about tech...incredibly stupid.
But Marc, Xg has no product that works and they won't have one that they can sell.
How do you explain they have booked sales in their finacial reports?
This "company" is a scam and a joke!
only gooks like you care about a quarter million dollars, or even a few million. You´re a dope, gook, and you´ve been obsessed with me and xG for years.
09 January 2009
"The deployment of our xMax mobile VoIP service in the southern Florida market continues to progress well."
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_1_19_09.asp
04 November 2008
'This update in our deployment schedule allows us to refine our mobile VoIP solution to an even more exacting standard. While we are anxious to demonstrate our exciting handset and base station line to the world, we are committed to delivering the best possible experience to users of our products, as well as to the business partners who will be supplying them. This means allowing our technical team the proper time needed to fine tune our system. We remain on schedule to release the very first mobile VoIP system to the market.' http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_11_04_08.asp
22 September 2008
“Initial deliveries of the base stations are expected during the closing months of 2008 with the majority of the 1,000 base stations order being completed during 2009.
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_9_22_08.asp
Here´s more you obsessed dummies.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32446209
More spoonfed rubbish proving nothing.Identical to last article and proving there is have no commercial interest.
Anon dreg, spoonfed rubbish from CNBC is 1 million times more meaningful than anonymous garbage posted by retards.
Take a look in the mirror, anon.
You will know better next time.
http://www.pr-inside.com/xg-technology-unlicensed-spectrum-key-r1439979.htm
Oh my god you dummies...white spaces!
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Dummy, meaningful or not, doesnt matter where it comes from, everyone now knows the tech doesn't work. Experts have been trying to point out for some time now, that it breaks physical laws. Xg realized this a long time ago and have been lying to everyone about progress ever since.
sure Jr. sure...lol at experts...lol.
Cambridge wouldn´t hire ugly Karn as a bathroom attendant, and he´s the best you have!
stop yer cryin about the tech, it blows existing tech away in every form...don´t hate the player, anon dreg, hate the game!
Still with the breaking of physical laws?
What a DUMMY!
waaaaaaaaaah, xG lied, waaaaaaaaaaah....hey anon dreg, if you think so, do something about it other than whine in a pathetic and obsessive way.
Gutless idiot. I love making fun of you. I will be in your face at all times.
This is one of the most entertaining blog comment sections I have read in a while. The name calling, racial put downs and general ranting is quite entertaining! WOW!
thank you Jeanne.
"Experts have been trying to point out for some time now, that it breaks physical laws."
xG's tech whose claims broke physical laws is no longer being promoted. What they're promoting now is BPSK modulation capable of a maximum of six simultaneous phone calls over a distance of less than two miles in unlicensed spectrum. And it will work only as long as nobody else is using the spectrum.
Basically a walkie talkie system -- certainly not viable as a cellular phone system. But it may give xG a vehicle they can use for dog and pony shows to try and scam unsuspecting ILECs.
BPSK?
Where is that coming from?
"Basically a walkie talkie system -- certainly not viable as a cellular phone system. But it may give xG a vehicle they can use for dog and pony shows to try and scam unsuspecting ILECs."
As I've said before, they can potentially open up a sales to Toys ´R Us selling the most expensive walkie talkies ever developed - I look forward to buying a pair of them.
xG Technology is such a scam
Check this out. Two xG guys talking to Carl Ford the head of the 4GWE.
http://blog.tmcnet.com/4g-wirelessevolution/2009/08/xg-technology-building-for-the-broadband-experience.html
Bart, you´re funny, 6 phone calls..ya dummy they only have 6 phones. No interference issues...you´re praying to a false god idiot.
Low cost, Bart the anon obsessed dreg and Gook the asian sweatshop owner are too busy jerking each other off to pay attention to facts.
This has been very very funny.
This IS very funny and the funniest part is that an idiot named Marc Dannenberg still believes xG Technology isn't a scam. That's how stupid he is, on the other hand it seems like that is a prerequisite for being involved in xG. Just look at Frederick Wahlman, Rick Mooers, Joe "Freakshow" Bobier etc.
http://www.tmcnet.com/viewette.aspx?u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.tmcnet.com%2fusubmit%2f2009%2f08%2f17%2f4326270.htm&kw=3
LOLOLOLOLOL, Gook, your 3rd eyelid excludes you from seeing what is happening.
Rich, your own website...too funny!
As always with xG, nothing is happening except false press releases and the supporters shouting about imminent success. My own website?
"As always with xG, nothing is happening except false press releases and the supporters shouting about imminent success. My own website?"
SupporterS? (i.e. plural?) Marc has been the only supporter for the past several months. The rest of us are just waiting for the train wreck while we poke and prod him and make him squeak.
Nobody has squeaked more than you bart the obsessed anon dreg. How long have you been obsessed with me, 5 years?
I have the most time, and i love to f with you jerkoffs.
http://www.cable360.net/ct/news/thewire/xG-Announces-White-Spaces-Phone-Service_37124.html
Bart the anon dreg and the rest of you dummies, you are now starting to learn what it´s like to come up against a global winner, not just the best on your block...
Sorry, morons, you called in the rain.
1) Similar press releases of imminent launch were made 2 1\2 years ago with no result.
2) Knowing this 8th or 9th imminent launch is also false, they are getting a bit wary of making false statements to AIM.
sure anon do nothing, sure.
keep on obsessing.
The greater the number of press releases = the greater the desperation. But none released to AIM to avoid prosecution when they fold.
They have nothing, otherwise they would have shown it and carriers would have been begging to sign. Having BS'ed once too often and they cant raise any more money. 0.50 cents is a good price, if you can get it. This stock is worthless
Below are famous quotes from poster "Marc" taken from the iii.co.uk forum. Please read them and enjoy and remember they're two years old and he's still saying the same things. Expecially note his predicitions of the share price to get to $50.000/share, today it's $0.50 bid. Ok, here we go:
According to an article I read a while back. By the way, rumour has it there will be big news on Friday as well as over the next 2 weeks.
Since this is a public board and I am not soliciting stock, and it´s total speculation and I don´t intend to affect any individual to buy or sell, I have heard 20 USD very short term and 100 USD by Christmas....pure speculation by knowledgeable people.
Far Reach will do 5700 base stations. That is a long way to 900, you´re right. Here is the reason the stock will be at 100. 57 million people covered. At just 10 percent of this first rollout over the next 5 years, which is how far stocks usually trade,xG will have 85.5 million coming into their hands per month, 5.7 million users times 15 USD per month. That is over a billion a year in Revs and again I am basing this on the Far Reach rollout alone. Any stock making a billion based on the business model can trade 30 to 40 PE, even 50. On the billion dollar number, let´s take most optimistic at 50 PE, the company is a patent owner and give them 50 percent profit margin, the numbers come out to have this company trading at a PE of 50 a market cap of 25 billion USD. That puts the price at 200 USD. Keep in mind, this is all happening now, so that price should be now if the stock trades 5 years out....
I´m going to speak very generally as to not divulge too much, but I want you guys to know what I heard last night. We will be at 20 on Monday and obviously our run starts now. The many institutions at Morgan, (it wasn´t just Morgan) flipped out over our baby, and a company with the initials GS has a meeting with xG today. Something to
the effect of "no ceiling" on our stock price. 150 by Christmas (xmax!!) lol and beyond
...continued
I would not be surprised if Telefonica bid for xG. I wouldn´t sell, because the price I would be asking is outrageous. Partners are better. We are going higher.
Inner Space communications system using xMax to give seamless wireless internet services to the masses....I like it, at 15 USD a pop, xG stands to make a good 45 billion USD per month which comes out to 540 billion a year. If the stock can trade out 5 years, it´s a 3.2
trillion dollar company which puts the shares at 25,600 USD per share. Not a bad run.
15 USD times 6 billion is 90 billion a month or 1.2 trillion per year. That puts us at 6 trillion market cap or 50,000 USD per share.
I´m being given great info...these deals (National Grid, Telefonica)are going to be commonplace with the biggest providers you can imagine. Logically, there will be a testing phase for each one of these gargantuan monsters, however, these companies are familiar with xG for more than the last week, that I can tell you, and THEY know
xMax works well enough to want to test it COUNTRY WIDE...not in some coffee shop. If I had to guess, coming into 2009, xG will be worldwide, and as ipray said, St. Peter is coming out with some press fairly soon.
Ok, I´m done with Baseball, (not literally, of course). I spoke with Far Reach not 2 minutes ago. He said things are going incredibly well and they are very excited to be offering this commercially towards the end of June. The Beta testing is going on right now, and before it gets to the commercial stage, it will be friends and family service. They believe their service will be revolutionary and they can´t wait to get it started.
....continued
I don´t doubt that we see consistent growth throughout. Keep in mind, yesterday was the FIRST sign of some Institutional monies getting involved. How many Institutions are going to want a piece of this company once they deliver the goods? We should see over 100k shares
traded on a daily basis at the very least, which will bring us up with a steady climb. Someone very very close to the situation stated he will cut his arm off if we are not at triple figures by the end of the year.
With so many shares on restriction, the bid would have to be friendly. I would not sell the company for less than 20 Billion....which would put us at 200 USD per share.
That my friends is what we have. The cost to deploy this network is 50,000 USD per 30,000 people...(and it is my opinion xG is quite conservative with their numbers) If you get 10 percent of the market, you are making 90,000 USD per month. You are paid back in a little over 2 weeks. With the cash ....you deploy more networks. If Telefonica decides to do the 4g thang with xG, we are looking at
Telefonica making 810 million dollars a month using 10 percent of their EXISTING market, in other words, customers of theirs. Oh..for xG, that´s 200,000,000 USD per month, a billion per year (only)
I would like to know why the stock would fall once the public is aware of xG´s capabilities.
What is anyones guess what happens to the stock price once the 120 mil is announced? I say onwards to 20+ because that is complete outside validation of the networks.
Why have none of you commented at all on Gama, who has their hands in just about every market in Eastern Europe and is in ireland and North Africa. I have a feeling we will see more of these....Why have none of
you commented on Mensil making you aware that Ericsson has come out in favor of xG?
xG has the capabilities to trade through 1k per share in 5 years.
Trying to Pump up xG´s price?? Who is doing that? That´s dumb Phil, the company is a billion and somewhat dollars in market cap...the stock is up high enough for me at this point There is NO DELAY at all with ANY of their prospective partners.
I guess I'm not getting through to you. I DO NOT NEED the "entire picture" to know that what xG has demonstrated is well within the capability of conventional technology. If you knew radio communications, you'd know this.
"I have also seen it demonstrated as a personal-area network, giving 2Mbit/s over 40ft, using 3 nanoWatts," said Schwartz. With that level of power, a Wi-Fi like network could operate for years on small batteries, he said.
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Here´s for the jackoff that said Schwartz signed off on xMax because it worked on paper....you guys are dumb, dumb, dumb...as for my favorite Gook...nonsense as usual.
Is Schwartz still pumping this nonsense? ANY reasonable modulation method can do 2 Mbit/s over 40 ft using 3 nanowatts. Certainly doesn't mean the chips will only draw 3 nanowatts from the batteries. Anyone doesn't know this hasn't a clue about real-world engineering of communications systems.
Funniest ever, anon...Schwartz knows nothing but an obsessed anon dreg knows it all...
HOW RETARDED ARE YOU?
Hey a-holes...are you feeling "disrupted"..
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
Shannon´s dead, you morons.
FYI Marc:
"18 months ago, they abandoned the Joe Bobier magic modulation. Cambridge designed them an ordinary BPSK-based air interface. This will work, but limit their range, capacity, and interference protection. So for all intents and purposes, xG abandoned 7 years of work and started over at that time"
3 nW = -85.2 dBW
Transmit antenna gain = 6 dB
Path loss, 20*log10(4*pi*d/L): 40 feet @ 915 MHz = 53.3 dB
Receive antenna gain = 6 dB
Receive pwr: -85.2 dBW - 53.3 dB +6+6 = -126.5 dBW
2 Mb/s = 63 dB-bps
Received Eb = -126.5 dBW - 63 dB-bps = -189.5 dBJ
300K system temp = 24.8 dB-K
N0 = kT = -228.6 + 24.8 dB-K = -203.8 dBJ
Eb/No = -189.5 - -203.8 = 14.3 dB
BPSK with long turbo codes can operate at about 1 dB. IS-95 CDMA operates around +6 or +7 dB.
OMG, Gook, one lies the other swears by it...
such a dumb Gook.
Shannon, you´re a dummy.
No self respecting engineer would waste their time here.
Pathetic idiot.
Shannon, lol, you´re a dumb disgusting geek.
I can tell you definitely are feeling "disrupted"
SUCKER!!!
Interpretation: running 2 Mb/s over 40 feet with only 3 nW of (RF) power is well within the capability of just about any existing modulation method, especially if modest gain antennas are used.
Ergo, it is a puzzle as to why xG promotes their technology as some sort of breakthrough.
What´s the name of the mental disease where you repeat nonsense over and over and over again, shannon the anon dreg geek?
The only sucker here is the investor who bought a pig in a poke without proper due diligence.
Wise investors do not accept on faith the claims of a technology company when one is ignorant of the relevant state of the art and competitive environment and unwilling to consult independent, disinterested experts.
Wrong again, Shannon the wannabe.
The suckers are you...the ones who have relentlessly obsessed over xG without making one bit of effort to make sure they are not acting like fools....as a matter of fact that´s the meaning of SUCKER!!!
Keep obsessing over me, xG, Bobier, and the other 70 engineers, multi billionaires and geniuses who are involved. I don´t blame you. You are a sucker though.
Anon dregs, listen up...your behavior over YEARS is SO typical of every reaction by blockhead idiots to EVERY MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. What makes you lot even more dumb is that you can´t see that, which completes the cycle.
You commoners are genetically programmed to be envious of people like me. It either kills you or makes you stronger.
"The suckers are you...the ones who have relentlessly obsessed over xG without making one bit of effort to make sure they are not acting like fools"
Well, xG has managed very well to act like complete idiots and they don't seem to have learnt anything as it just keeps getting worse.
Shannon is dead, long live Shannon
LOL, the Drunk...
there are strong grounds that you want to SUCK IT!!!!
is the Gook and the Drunk jerking each other off, or are they both jerking me off...can´t figure it out...either way it´s very entertaining...keep obsessing, dregs.
As you can see from his racist, ignorant posts Marc Dannenberg is nothing more that the lowest level of a boiler room scam operative. His entire career consists of frauds, lies and behavior that is perfectly shown in his posts here.
This is the type of individual that xg technology associates themselves with. They used him to sell securities to foreign investors because no reputable firm or investors saw any value in xg.
As Marc himself once said about the group xg used to obtain investors "nobody wants to make a legitimate living." Xg's secrecy means you have to rely on their credibility.
They use boiler rooms and people like Marc Dannenberg to find investors.
They namedrop countless firms that according to xg have taken a look at what xg has to offer, yet none of them have ever given a dime to xg.
There has been constant claims of fraud by insiders and the company once blamed a failed demonstration on "military grade jamming."
XG was simply a vehicle to beneift Mooers, Branton and Bobier and a couple of directors who are also being compensated well. MB gave the iDigi investors shares in XG to settle their fraud claims. They listed on the AIM so those investors would have liquidity. They have paid themselves $70,000 a month plus expenses and equity, while failing to meet any deadlines, producing any revenue and having no products.
They will eventually run out of money
and claim the failure of the company was due to either the global economy, a conspiracy theory by the major players such as Qualcomm to bring them down or some other nonsense just like iDigi failing because of 9/11.
By producing a simple product with no commercial viability or proprietary value they can at least try to claim they earned the $840+k a year they've been paying themselves.
In what I'm sure is pure coincidence, prosecution would be tough because they listed on the London AIM, even though they are a US company with only US operations.
another obsessed anon jackoff...ho hum
"15 USD times 6 billion is 90 billion a month or 1.2 trillion per year. That puts us at 6 trillion market cap or 50,000 USD per share."
I love that post Marc. I wonder who's obsessed......
$50.000 per share? It's $0.50 bid - I kind of like that
Only investor disgust is staying a total SP collapse. Most investors are resigned to their loss, with their investment now mostly worthless. You'll get nothing back at this price, might as well watch it go to dust.
A good lesson in investing on a lightly regulated exchange, where unscrupulous companies are allowed to lie constantly to the market and get away with it!!
"This IS very funny and the funniest part is that an idiot named Marc Dannenberg still believes xG Technology isn't a scam. That's how stupid he is, on the other hand it seems like that is a "prerequisite for being involved in xG. Just look at Frederick Wahlman, Rick Mooers, Joe "Freakshow" Bobier etc."
Those guys are head and shoulders above Dannenberg. None of them has ever put any of their own money into this scam. But they talked Marc into buying $1.5 million of stock just before it went public at 5.00. Funny thing is, all the way up to $18.00 and all the way back down to $0.50 he wasn't able to sell. At one point he even tried to create his own company and sell stock to get money, using his one million shares of xG stock as collateral. Nobody bought anything.
Now his $1.5 million is worth $750,000 ON PAPER. If he was able to sell any, the price would plummet. He'd be lucky to get $25,000 for his entire holdings. And somebody recently said he even leveraged that $1.5 million?!?!? Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!
Its pathetic. PR release after PR. For what? If but to shovel the same rubbish about dongles, mobile voip, and full suites to unsuspecting journalists. More importantly, it confirms there is nothing of commercial value to Townes.
Call me a dufus if you want, but I am angry, very angry, not because of their failure, but because of the lies and deception again and again over an extended period of time, only to find these guys have little more than a very expensive talkie walkies. Whats the point of Nomads, and a so called REGULATED exchange, if investors can be so freely misled and deceived through market releases.
If you care to scroll back though the XG Press releases, you'll see they've been lying solidly about BTS sales,revenues and development progress. Its not prety reading and supports quite a few horror stories from their iDigi days.
Read this link and draw your own conclusion.
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_5_07_08.asp
Its one of many!
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_1_14_08.asp
Did Marc really buy XGT stock with 1.5M of his own money?
That would explain much. Wonderful. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Of course xG is a scam, a major scam as well - let's hope as many as possible will face some jail time.
Let's hope Bart is right about Marc having some leverage on his holdings. That will make xG's upcoming bankruptcy even more funny!
Of course xG is a scam, a major scam as well - let's hope as many as possible will face some jail time.
We all hope Bart is right about Marc having some leverage on his holdings. That will make xG's upcoming bankruptcy even more funny!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
What a bunch of faggot bitches!!!
Scammee you´re a loser buddy, ever do something worthwhile?
What a bunch of suckers.
One lies, the rest believe them...
When´s the mass suicide?
Oh I´m so upset...Oh it´s been so looooong!
Never quite met a bunch of morons like you guys.
LOL, there´s a jackoff on III comparing xG to Madoff...where is the other 50 Billion, jackoff, since xG raised 70 million and Bernie lost 50 Billion.
I hope Obama´s plan of population control comes to pass...not one of you dolts would make it.
That would mean more for me.
Matter of fact, this blog...scammee, the gook, the drunk you assholes make me sick. Your stupidity is overwhelming.
Upset?
Hi assholes, you bitches talk about oh someone should be prosecuted....well jackoffs it´s been 10 years and....NOTHING! Kind of like the definition of your lives.
Balless, Brainless, Gutless...that´s the credo of the anti xG mob.
Scammee, you like being included in that? Sounds to me like you belong.
Of course someone should be prosecuted and that should include yourself, Rick&Roger, Frederick Wahlman and Joe "freakshow" Bobier
Nip, you will have round eyes before that happens.
I am disgusted more than upset that you dregs make up a majority of humankind.
Is it 3 press releases xG has released the past week? Must feel depressing knowing no one gives a shit and everyone is laughing at it!
everyone?
Gook you people always look like you´re laughing even when getting the butt of a gun crashed against your forehead..that´s one of the beauties of being a gook.
As for Nice...you wanna marry me?
But, but anon dreg, another fantasy says I was given the stock...can you get your stories straight so you can jerk off to the same bullshit?
Pathetic little anon pissants...
http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/weinschenk/white-space-movement-another-good-sign-for-rural-connectivity/?cs=35036
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...your nightmare has begun!!!
Marc Dannenberg has never had $1.5 million nor had access to it. Marc was a cold caller for one of the worst boiler room firms ever called Monroe Parker that was disbanded by the regulators. Marc himself was fined and suspended for making unauthorized trades in accounts and threatening clients. He ran off to a boiler room in Europe where he could more freely engage in the only manner of business he could.
He found the perfect company in XG. A company that would claim revolutionary capabilities, while maintaining total secrecy. They were more than willing to announce vague and misleading pr so Marc could spin it and run with it. Marc often "predicted" 100mm in revs for xg in 08 based on a relationship with Far Reach. A small US web hosting company with 3 employees who somehow had $100 million from another company nobody had heard of. It turns out after Marc was making these predictions, that he was involved with Far Reach.
The vulgar nonsense is boring and predictable. It is amusing when he tries to think of scams to raise money.
Bottom line, the whole premise of xg revolves around the integrity of the company due to their extraordinary claims combined with their secrecy. Instead of taking extra efforts to enhance their integrity, they went the exact opposite direction.
They engaged with boiler rooms and individuals such as Marc Dannenberg. They name drop multiple firms, none of which have ever done business with them. They "announce" non-binding agreements which are of course meaningless, and proved to be so. They blame failures on things like military grade jamming. They and others directly associated with the company also spend a great deal of time personally attacking critics, when the greatest way to silence their critics is to actually produce a product that does what they've claimed.
But the repetitious obsessive nonsense is always exciting, right busher?
Busher, I´ve made more money in one year than you´ve made in a lifetime...why do you think you´re so jealous of me?
BUSHER wants me to allow him to perform fellatio on me...I said no! No is NO!
Oh and some of you morons might be asking (or should be asking) what I´m expecting out of the much more than 1.5 mil I have in the co....I expect to be top 5 richest men in the world. Rest assured from that position I will make it my business to step hard on the throats of you 5 idiots.
"The vulgar nonsense is boring and predictable. It is amusing when he tries to think of scams to raise money."
How did his baseball card "raffle" ever turn out?
http://www.rafflewebnow.com
Doesn't look like it was ever updated after he first put it up. He's too stupid to run his own scam, so he has to ride the coattails of people like Mooers & Branton.
Bart the obsessed dreg...so if I run it it´s a scam and if I don´t it´s that I´m stupid...you are an obsessed idiot.
Good morning, dreg.
"I expect to be top 5 richest men in the world. Rest assured from that position I will make it my business to step hard on the throats of you 5 idiots."
Are you know doing drugs 24/7?
No Gook, but you are full of napalm 24/7.
Oh, you also suck it 24/7.
All ammunition you have left is racist attacks and abuse. You're truly a sad person and it can't be a coincident you're involved in xG
Btw, did I say xG is a scam?
lol at ammunition...gook you lost the war when you came up against me. Too bad so sad bye bye.
Lost the war? We kicked your ass here like I'm kicking yours. You're like a blindfolded soldier with a toy gun.
Say some prayers I get tired or this, I doubt I won't though
Say some prayers I get tired or this, I doubt I won't though
What, Gook?
"Oh and some of you morons might be asking (or should be asking) what I´m expecting out of the much more than 1.5 mil I have in the co....I expect to be top 5 richest men in the world."
You lost MORE than $1.5 million to M&B??? Just how much did they take you for?
Hey Bart the gutless anon dreg, give me a call or email and we can talk about it. lol, what a coward!
Does anyone know if Marc has leveraged his xG holdings? If yes, does he have a debt to ACH Securities in Switzerland
"Hey Bart the gutless anon dreg, give me a call or email and we can talk about it. lol, what a coward!"
Oh right, Marc. Like I want you filling my inbox with obscene screeds or telephoning me all hours of the day and night with obscene rants. You're a sick man.
And you're a stupid mas as well. So you say you have more than $1.5 million invested in xG. That alone proves that you're stupid. And your recently stated expectation that your investment in xG will make you rich further proves you're an idiot.
How does it feel, Marc, to see your >$1.5 million investment languish at $500,000 on paper, knowing very well that you'd be lucky to ever see even $25,000 of your money ever again?
Exactly how much did you spend on your one million shares? I've seen speculation of $1.50/share, $4.50/share, and even $5.00/share. Just how far underwater are you?
and Bart the anon dreg because you have given the patented coward answer, I can only guess that you are happy simply to lick upon my nuts and suck my dick.
Fair to say?
Marc Dannenberg is an idiot but Rick Mooers and Fredrerick Wahlman are criminals!
Btw, did I say xG is a scam
Who let this Marc character out of the insane asylum? Based on his writing he badly needs professional treatment.
Who let this Marc character out of the loony bin? Based on his writings he badly needs help.
Answer the question, Marc. How much do you have invested in xG? You say it's "much more than" $1.5 million. How much more? Just how big a player are you?
Bart the anon obsessed dreg, I´m a big player enough to have you obsessed with me for like 5 years.
As to the other anon dreg...look at you, commenting on me...and my investments...do you know me?
I don´t care about the stock price at this point. Making fun of you idiots is much more fun.
I like the rotation on this blog..Gook, Geek, Dreg...Gook, Geek, Dreg...Gook, Geek, Dreg...
Busher the Dummy just screws things up, as usual...keep it going obsessed filthpiles. You will all get a chance to blow me.
Bart the anon dreg, let me add that you are rightfullly obsessed with me. You can never dream to be me, so you obsess over me.
xG Technology is a scam, just had to remind everyone in case.......
So Marc, you dumped $3 million into this scam. You must be proud.
Found at:
http://www.hilpers.org/504415-new-transmission-technology-promises-a
posted 11-11-2005
"I have 3 million dollars in this company for the last
years. There was international fighting, name calling,
and all other strange things going on with this
technology for a long time. I am very happy to see
they have accomplished what they said they would. An ex
MSFT exec is on the board of directors and I´m sure xG
will be the future of fixed wireless broadband."
xG sure has some a long way in four years, huh?
$3 million dollars!!! Sucker!!!!!!
This is what Marc also said 4 years ago:
"Bring it on buddy. It doesn´t change the fact that SHEC Labs, www.sheclabs.com and xG Technology are two life changing assets, the likes of which you will not see again."
This is great evidence this man is seriously mentally ill. He must have the mind of a 3 year old and just doesn't understand he's been screwed. He's probably going to die in denial with xG long gone blaming antis, the economy, investors and more saying that xG would have been the biggest company in the world if not for a Geek, a Drunk and a Gook
Bart the disgusting obsessed anon dreg....I´m the sucker but you keep on sucking...Bart, my nuts are not orphans you know...keep sucking....I´m almost there Barty boy!
Bart you´re disgusting bro. and I mean that.
2005, huh...3 mil, huh...try again faggot.
No matter how much Marc has invested it's all now long gone and with a bit of luck he's one of many that has borrowed from ACH using his xG shares as security. Let's hope Frederick Wahlman, Wennerberg, Mooers and Bobier were ACH clients too :-)
Hi Nip, you can keep sucking too, there´s enough for you.
Nah, Gook, SHEC will be bigger, but xG will be f´ing HUGE!!! There is a great reason why you, Bart the anon Dreg, the Busher and the Geek have wanted to suck it for so long!!! I will say one thing, you have every right to be obsessed with me and my investments.
Just the other day you said xG was going to be the biggest company in history. What has made you change your mind? Do you have any new information?
Yep, Charlie I do have information...I have hit 2 HUGE HOME RUNS with these co.´s. and your obsession is warranted.
Home runs? You mean you have shorted both companies? Sorry, I don't understand, both are scams and only way to make money is to short them. Remember there's still 50 cents to make on xG, maybe you can get that dickhead Frederick Wahlman to find buyers.......don't go to Wennerberg, he obviously hates you
INCOMING!!!
"Yep, Charlie I do have information...I have hit 2 HUGE HOME RUNS with these co.´s. and your obsession is warranted."
What planet are you on??? Here on Earth when somebody dumps $3 million into a scam and loses it all, with absolutely no hope of ever recovering any of it, we call him a sucker.
Say, how's that landfill gas project going in Regina? Has the new delay hit the airwaves yet?
Really Bart the anon obsessed dreg? Because here on my planet we don´t obsess over suckers for 5 years. On your planet of losers and wannabe´s I guess they do. Unless, of course you know I´m a king and you want to suck my dick, which is totally understandable.
Bart you will never ever be as witty, successful Big mistake coming up against me...big.
Still dwelling on the Regina project...figures you loser.
I see there's an update on ACH's site - good to see the Swiss liquidator is working. Really looking forward to this update due in a week: "Spartan Mullen fails to transfer funds for purchase of shares in xG Technology"
Bart, in a nutshell you common anon obsessed dreg, it seems clear that I am everything you want to be, I have everything you want, and you have nothing I want, nor are you ever anything close to what I want to be.
I mean, who would want to be a disgusting anon obsessed dreg?
"I mean, who would want to be a disgusting anon obsessed dreg?"
If that is what you call it making the world a favour and getting xG off the map I'm more than happy to be one
OH MY GOD, Chinky, it makes me sick that you check every little movement regarding this little co.
Unless someone is paying you, which will be found out in due time.
Never happening, Gook. Keep trying though...
By the way Bart the anon dreg...how big of a sucker can I be if Billionaires and Global Royalty are investing after I did...me thinks you are the sucker, Bart.
Billionaire? Who's that? Are you referring to Bohman? He hasn't invested s*** in xG. He has on paper "invested" but that money has gone back to him. If you didn't know, he's broke.
Global Royalty? Who could that be? Royalties have never been famous of their investment skills or intelligence
Do you have anything more? A world famous soccer player? World famous musician? The world's smartest cow?
Charlie, the worlds smartest cow would lend more credibility to xG than a sweatshop owning Gook, a low level geek, an obsessed anon, and a bush league wannabe.
Buddy, my side is stacked, yours is built to lose.
"Buddy, my side is stacked, yours is built to lose."
I sure hope you like surprises!
Marc, at what price could you consider selling your xG shares?
Millions of dollars gone, Marc. And nothing to show for it but some worthless stock certificates. Mooers and Branton thank you for your support.
Loser.
Bart you disgusting anon dreg, if I´m a loser what does that make someone like you who obsesses over me and my investments?
I don´t think there is a word for you...vermin, maybe.
Bootlicker...perhaps.
You're the loser Marc and we're on the opposite that and that makes us winners - simple
You´re confused, chinky....
Ok. maybe confused but smart enough to see that xG was going to crash. Is it the 31st of August Spartan Mullen has to transfer the funds?
Try to sell some shares at 0.50, I have advised you before from $10 and all the way here and it's time you start listening to someone who understands this.
Buddy, you have no idea what I´ve done, you dumb gook...you´re too dumb to give up. What happened to the other moronic plague who said the co. wouldn´t make payroll in April?
Wow, did they make the payroll in April? Are you sure? Amazing - just because of that xG should have a valuation in line with GE
Gook....INCOMING!!!
Incoming? What is incoming?
Sellers of xG shares?
News from the liquidator?
Bankruptcy filing from xG?
More lies from xG?
Please explain!
"Bart you disgusting anon dreg, if I´m a loser what does that make someone like you who obsesses over me and my investments?"
Not obsessing. I'm just highly entertained by your failure.
You've been such a dick in promoting xG and SHEC that I find it quite hilarious to see that you gained nothing promoting SHEC and actually lost $3 million promoting xG. I sure hope you're highly leveraged in the money you "invested" in xG.
$3 million, Marc. Gone. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...
Bart, the only failure evidenced through our relationship is your parents failure to use protection.
Nope, you are obsessed, buddy.
As far as being a dick...if I was a dick I would be in your mouth.
LOL at RUPERT...Too much money spent on burgers and pizza and he can´t afford to go to Florida to get shut up.
Oh, he couldn´t go anyway...it´s not for useless bloggers.
Oh and Bart you moronic douchebag, I can´t understand how you think xG and SHEC are over...xG is just STARTING to show off their wares to the biggest co´s in their field...so is SHEC. Your thinking is backasswards, Bart the dreg....and like I said, you are totally justified in wanting to suck my dick.
Don't think anyone will go to Florida as it's kind of useless when we all already know xG hasn't got anything of interest to anyone. Maybe except for a toy manufacturer but that's another story.
Marc, keep promoting this, try borrow money and buy more - this just have to be the opportunity that never ever will come back. Call Sentec, call Fred, call, Rausto and everyone else and BUY. You're not doing anything or are you waiting to get ACH's 5 Million shares down your throat?
Btw, did I say xG is a scam?
How pathetic is this...the same 2 of 3 jackasses obsessed with xG for years. We have ugly Phil Karn, who tries to act like it´s his first post...as Rupert obviously alludes to him as the guy who tipped him off that xG was using common tech, absolute bullshit of course. We have the sweatshop owning gook.
What a disgusting motley crew.
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Unlicensed spectrum? Internet-based?
Sounds like WiFi to me. I can get it for what? $50 at the local computer store?
Posted by KA9Q on Aug 25, 2009 11:16 AM
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Updated by KA9Q on Aug 25, 2009 11:21 AM
What we have here is interesting for two reasons:
1. xG has been lying to the market for years about their technology and that's now confirmed. Shouldn't they be sued for this?
2. xG has nothing whatsoever that is of interest to anyone
This company is a very sad story
Posted by HuangDongh on Aug 25, 2009 12:47 PM
sure Charlie, sure.
"This company is a very sad story"
Only for the people who invested money in it. The rest of us find it to be a big joke.
Not obsessing. I'm just highly entertained by your failure.
You've been such a dick in promoting xG and SHEC that I find it quite hilarious to see that you gained nothing promoting SHEC and actually lost $3 million promoting xG. I sure hope you're highly leveraged in the money you "invested" in xG.
Ditto. Had Marc not been such a jerk I wouldn't have given xG a second thought. With friends like him, xG sure doesn't need any enemies.
I've known a few people who harass others just for the hell of it. Marc is certainly shameless about it, and his reputation (or what's left of it) obviously means nothing to him. But perhaps he's so heavily leveraged that he will lose everything when xG goes down the tubes. That could explain his special obsession with communication experts, former xG partners and employees, and anyone else whose criticism could be influential. The really funny part is how he pretends to not care about this criticism even as it drives him over the top.
...xG is just STARTING to show off their wares to the biggest co´s in their field...
Marc, weren't you saying exactly this about 2 years ago? When XGT was at about $15?
LOL, you losers follow me more than you follow your own religion. I´m your God. Too funny! Clown the Ugly Phil Karn you´re a dummy and you know it.
"Marc, weren't you saying exactly this about 2 years ago? When XGT was at about $15?"
He was together with an additional 5-10 morons/crooks/thieves. ALL of those have now realised it's a good thing not to be linked to this company and have therefore bailed out as it will get dirty soon. The only one stupid enough to hang around is Marc and his losses seem to have made gotten to his brains. A year ago the man was nuts but since it has increased by the day and what we're seeing now is total mental breakdown
It nevertheless remains that a handful of individuals have devoted their lives to harassing XG. I as an xG investor stopped posting when I started to receive hate mail from xG harassers. Thats the extent of their antipathy.
It may very well be the case that xG have missed targets and certainly product finalization has taken longer than anticipated, but they remain inexorably on course to bringing their disruptive product to market, and some people dont like that!
Sentec, xG is a scam. But as you're Sentecstupid you haven't yet figured that out
Also, I don't believe a word you have receive any emails from people who understand xG is a scam. No one has your email address.
You've been lying for years and you continue to do so - you should be ashamed of yourself
I think that response speaks for itself and one of the reasons why I stopped posting. Since Marc opted to continue posting, this is the sort of abuse hes come in for. Try to fight back and they only attack you more mercilessly, sometimes I think, even forgetting why it is they're posting in the first place, so consumed are they!
Reason for posting is that xG is a scam and people should be warned. Just Google "xg technology scam" and you'll find loads of useful information
Trying too hard Backbooner!!
I know it must be frustrating for you that SP still isnt moving in the direction you want; still you've tried everything.. Congrats, top marks for effort, but straight fail on intelligence or coherance of post!
Bye for now; this all just silly!!
Sentec, you and the other supporters have been talking about a share price at $20, 50, 100, 1000 and I had my initial target price $1 that was reached a while ago. I later lowered it to $0.25 but have lately cut it to $0.05 as there's no money left and it's a well known fact this company has absolutely nothing. On top of that they have admitted they've been lying for the past 5 years by totally changing what they say about the performance of xMax - that tech is available everywhere at no cost and xG has a shit version of it combined with a brand that smells of fraud.
The real fact is that XG are introducing a revolutionary technology that is going to turn the existing comms industry in its head.. Point being it restructures modern comm technology at its core.. so is not just limited to this small vertical mobile comms sector, but the larger comms picture nailing US$ 70 Billion dollars comms companies such as Qualcomm along he way.. See the web site, read it.. think about it, and make your decision... It doesnt come or get any bigger that this...
Sentec - 2007
Oh dear...
You are right I did say that 2 years ago, and well done for trawling through all my old posts.. Enjoy your work.
Yes, I was wrong, and XG underestimated the amount of work of bringing this project to fruition, but it still doesnt detract from the fact that the tech is still that disruptive and yes I stand by that!! If I were to criticize XG, it would be their feeling pressurized into needlessly setting stringent timeframes and losing credibility by not meeting them, when the integrity of the technology is absolutely there. But this will fall on deaf ears and the anti bandwagon will roll on.
OK bye again.
Feeling pressurized into needlessly setting timeframes?
They announced these timeframes on their own as PR ploys to keep implying they are close to actually having a product. Instead of addressing the missed deadlines, they would give another vague deadline.
Would you see the need to criticize the company for claiming years ago the reason why they were going public was to help in their contract negotiations? Of course, none have resulted with any company not associated with xg shareholders? What about the company announcing they were raising prices due to high demand, while having no customers. How about the management team paying themselves $840,000 a year plus, to produce no product, no revenues and no customers? How about the company announcing non-binding agreements which are worthless and proved to be so yet not commenting about claiming revenues on worthless products that they "sold" to a shareholder, yet bought back?
Sentec, you and the other supporters have been talking about a share price at $20, 50, 100, 1000 and I had my initial target price $1 that was reached a while ago. I later lowered it to $0.25 but have lately cut it to $0.05 as there's no money left and it's a well known fact this company has absolutely nothing. On top of that they have admitted they've been lying for the past 5 years by totally changing what they say about the performance of xMax - that tech is available everywhere at no cost and xG has a shit version of it combined with a brand that smells.
Sentec, do you still believe this company has any credibility at all? Why? What have they told or shown you to make you still believe so strongly that they have a "disruptive" technology, whatever that means?
Every outside expert has panned their claims. Virtually every investor and commentator, including some who had been willing to give them the benefit of a doubt, has given up and walked away in disgust.
Why not you? I'm truly curious. What did we miss?
Can barely be bothered to respond.. but will give a quick blast. Please dont hold onto your shares on my account.
Yes Xg have no credibility in the eyes of the market, yes they have mismanaged PR releases etc etc as eloquently put by our ever obliging Baseball, but the tech they have, that much I do know. When will it come, well soon
Yes every expert has panned their tech, most notably Dear MR Karn, so what.. Oh look I'm in a hurry to get to the pub,
Errm.. May try and put together a more coherent response tomorrow. In the meantime, try googling disruptive if its not a familiar word to you.
anon dreg, what the hell are you talking about...billionaires and huge hedge funds are buying stock 6 TIMES above where it is right now...
Outside Experts, LOL LOL LOL LOL...anon dreg dummy who are we talking about...the Gook sweatshop owner, the hideous mid level geek, the wannabe minor league busher or the drunk? Some experts you moron!
LOLOLOLOLOLOL, this has to be the dumbest post ever.
Way to give it the old boiler room try. No billionaires or huge hedge funds are paying for a single share of xg.
There is a huge overhang and they could buy the entire company for a fraction of the "quoted" price. Any investor with the smallest amount of sophistication will see that National Grid, Telefonica and Gama all took a look and saw no value. They will see the countless excuses for failing to deliver. Ultimately they will see a company with no customers, no revenues and no product who have destroyed any credibility.
Marc is getting desperate.
Sentec, you and the other supporters have been talking about a share price at $20, 50, 100, 1000 and I had my initial target price $1 that was reached a while ago. I later lowered it to $0.25 but have lately cut it to $0.05 as there's no money left and it's a well known fact this company has absolutely nothing. On top of that they have admitted they've been lying for the past 5 years by totally changing what they say about the performance of xMax - that tech is available everywhere at no cost and xG has a shit version of it combined with a brand that smells.
"anon dreg, what the hell are you talking about...billionaires and huge hedge funds are buying stock 6 TIMES above where it is right now..."
Nobody is buying. XGT is dead.
but the tech they have, that much I do know
Well, how do you know that? Do you work in the field?
"Well, how do you know that? Do you work in the field?"
Sentec = Joe Bobier
Wow, the retards are really working overtime...I´m desperate, lol...doesn´t seem that way busher.
If only you idiots were really in the same place, it would be a great time to drop a bomb.
What a group of obsessed suckers.
Sentec, how do you explain this post of yours from two years ago? Don't you feel you've been screwed by xG, been naive like a 4 year old or did you just simply lie?
Want me to pick of more of these or will you just disappear from here?
"23-10-07
Re: sentec
XGT.L
And the merry go round starts again.... with old selective memory here.. Gotta hand it to you, I do believe amongst all the anti-XG you do enjoy yourself on hear.. I'd love to be in postion to keep pulling someones leg... albeit if you doing it because you have presumably you have history with XG.. Anyways for the..what .. 20ieth time...
Of course XG have customers, these were declared to AIM as part of the listing criteria... No, the Customers dont care to be revealed, yes they are in line to deploy XG... No doubt we'll be covering this ground again in a few days... Few hours in the case of Boon...."
When developing a fundamentally new tech which breaks from convention and when looking to construct and deploy it as a network with phones on limited resources, all you have to do is wave a magic and hey presto its there!! Takes no time at all.
What is the real float of XGT? (i.e. how many shares are on the open market?) I understand only a very small percentage of the total shares were ever freely traded, the rest having gone directly into the accounts of insiders and never traded.
It looks like 5 million shares are going to be up for sale very soon. What percentage of the freely traded shares does this represent? And with XGT already at its all-time low share price and virtually zero volume, what are these 5 million shares going to do to the market for XGT?
And if the liquidators can't sell any of ACH's shares at any price, how does that affect XGT and the shareholders?
Sentec = Joe Bobier
Well, that would certainly explain it, if true.
...all you have to do is wave a magic and hey presto its there!! Takes no time at all....
That's why, Sentec, you have benchmarks and milestones along the way. And you're expected to meet them.
The first milestone is to show working laboratory prototypes that demonstrate the basic invention to everyone. You don't need finished, polished products at this stage.
But has xG ever even demonstrated publicly any laboratory prototypes in a way that verifies their supposed capabilities? Not to my knowledge. It's very strange that they keep talking about deploying a real network when they haven't even learned to crawl yet.
Sentec, my question was why you, among many other claims, said xG had customers. Were you lying or did you get screwed by Mooers?
Sentec, as you've always done regarding xG you avoid answering any questions. Why is that? Is it because you've lied all the time?
Please inform me about the "customers", the "institutional investors" and the "groundbreaking technology" that you for years have claimed xG have.
PRIVATE SALE OF xG Technolgy, Inc. SHARES - Chimay Capital failure to pay the purchase price.
The FINMA Liquidators hereby inform the creditors of ACH Securities SA that Chimay Capital Management failed to pay the purchase price of the 5'000'000 xG Technology, Inc. shares in due time. The FINMA Liquidators intend to take all appropriate legal and regulatory steps in Switzerland and abroad in order to recover the Chimay debt
Ok, my target price $0.1 won't be far away when 5 million shares are to be sold best in the market
Our favourite walkie talkie company is going down
Update on false info about sale of xG shares: http://www.achsecurities.ch/ -> Click "important" notice to creditors on the top
New blog post on "xG Technology is a scam": http://xgtechnologyscam.blogspot.com/
They lied to me and they lied to you; again and again. I was supposed to be a friend. Even if they did have something,which I now very much doubt, its probably years away from anything commercial. No one should remotely entrust their money to these liars
they didn´t lie to me bro...I was in Daytona and knew exactly where they were in this process. You´re a loser crying over sour grapes. If you had any balls, you would go to Florida or Arkansas.
Speak for yourself, sucker.
Oh and Golf it´s funny you say that as the stock is up 13 percent this week. Hilarious.
I hope you are not trying to say you are golfboat from iii...I just talked to him yesterday. Too funny. You bashers are sounding very very desperate. I love it.
Yes, it clearly fits a very familiar pattern for crackpot inventors. Joe Bobier's patents demonstrate a stark misunderstanding of communications theory, so he lacked the necessary background to realize that he hadn't actually invented a revolutionary new modulation scheme. But he still managed somehow to attract quite a bit of money from investors with more dollars than sense.
xG has apparently hired some reasonably competent engineers from industry to try to realize Joe's ideas, but they have seem to have shown management that they are worthless. Did they come clean and publicly announce that fact? No. Instead they're trying to save face by madly cobbling together something, anything that can handle a phone call.
Meanwhile, they maintain a steady stream of press releases breathlessly saying that they're going to have voice over IP over wireless Real Soon Now -- as though this were a magic combination that no one else had ever thought of. (An aside: Skype seems to work just fine over Verizon's 1xEVDO service, but I've had little reason to use it for voice since my regular voice phone works just fine.)
Here's some free technical advice for xG. Buy some OEM WiFi modules and connect them to a frequency converter to put them on the 902-928 MHz band. They'll work better than anything you could produce, and they're heckuva lot cheaper.
For all I know, maybe this is what xG is already doing.
Ok, Golf, I have your source who hasn´t been right about this company in 3 years. I take his negativity as a buy signal, a huge one.
anon, we´ve been hearing the same crap from anon dummies like you for 3 years...in the meantime, the company moves on. Your rants are nothing more than evidence of your obsession with Joe and xG.
"Oh and Golf it´s funny you say that as the stock is up 13 percent this week."
There was a total of *two* trades in the last two weeks, both at 0.75, for a whopping total of $4554 of volume. The share price ain't moving, son. Neither is the stock.
And that 0.75 share price is down 83% from the initial offering. XGT stinks.
It's simple, xG is a scam and every bullish poster here or anywhere else are in on it - they're all crooks
Every anti has some type of physical or mental disability. That´s a fact.
Isn't it telling that even a mentally disabled person in two minutes can tell xG is a scam. What that says is that these guys haven't done it very well.
Good luck with the walkie talkie business and let's see if xG can strike a deal with some toy manufacturer. Unfortunately the competition from Asaia will make their product approx 10 times more expensive than than the competitors'
1 - Would you hand over the cash?
2 - Mooers should quit making statements, like "it has been highly gratifying to see xMax products meet and exceed our expectations in field operating environments, both rural and high-interference suburban/urban." cause its clearly bullshit!!
3 - Or sign a deal with Townes, but that aint gonna happen as theres nothing in Xmax.
4 - Cut the shit and go home.
Great video, Rich, keep up the great work!
Sentec's real identity is Joe Bobier. His e-mail is joeb@xgtechnology.com. The "military grade" jamming xG is blaming their failed parking lot demo on a few years back was in fact made up by one of their directors, Frank Peake. The jamming was due to other business's legitimate wireless networks. Even a microwave oven would jam the system, since there was no interference rejection capability working in the system at that time. The demo was even setup with directional patch antennas on both ends to help minimize the effect of interferers, but to no avail.
Your first statement negates the rest of your bashing.
Good luck.
That was my first statement to this forum btw. You must be getting me confused with another anon Marc. It wasn't bashing. I was just setting the facts straight. But I do see your point. Most anything one says factual about xG will look indistinguiseable from extreme negative bashing.
Bro, if indeed this is your first statement and you vomit up that Sentec, a poster from England, is Joe Bobier, then you have made no factual statements.
None. Believe what you like, anon. Your gibberish is just obsessive nonsense over what is now a penny stock. Amazing.
So Marc do you think a reputable company should have any dealings with the likes of you? be honest. Your answer, if honest, should be *ABSOLUTELY NOT*. Now what does that tell the rest of the world about xG Technology?
Perhaps you think my judgement of you is hastily drawn...it´s the fact you bought xG basestations and you own shares that cements it for me...you´re a dumb mother******.
But you obsess over this dumb mother******´s every move...so that makes you my bitch.
The ultimate irony of this whole anti xG dreg brigade is that Rich who wrote this is now fully 180 degrees away from you, as well he should be, with the stink and all, and you pauper obsessed dregs still post your nonsense.
That´s truly funny. If xG wasn´t a huge company in the making, and be honest, anon dreg, would it attract peons like you throwing your tiny pebbles? If you are honest, your answer would be NO!, Of Course Not!
Let me guess Marc. Rich has sided with a sociopath such as yourself right LMAO? I think the irony here is that you are self delusional, and you are in desperate need of psychiatric help.
Marc is wiped out and that feels really good. He will soon start the blame game and go after Rick and Joe. That has potential to be funny. Come on now Marc and make some noise about how useless these guys are.
XG is a Scam, they fake demos, release false press release through naive editors and make false launch promises.
Faked demos
http://urgentcomm.com/mobile_voice/mag/radio_xg_technology_hits/index.html
Faked demo to Tehrani
False launchs and fictitious clients
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_7-18-06.asp
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_4-30-07.asp
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_11-28-07.asp
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_12-27-07.asp
(Note Gama Group have completed their DD..)
This stock is going to below $0.1... Get out while you can..
deathlehem2... you've just revealed yourself on iii.co.uk. Your comments are hilarious! Only Sentec could be that stupid. Do you prefer deathlehem2 or should we call you Sentec?
I've not posted as "Sino" but I'm honoured someone uses that name :-)
deathlehem2... you just revealed yourself on iii.co.uk. Your comments are hilarious! Only Sentec could be that stupid. Do you prefer deathlehem2 or can we call you Sentec?
XG's First True Press Release
"We are highly gratified to see the progress on continued Shareprice decline exceed all expectations. We have met all targets in our abject failure to produce anything of value at all, and are very excited about the prospect of further lying to the market and shareholders about our progress to date.
To bait you further and stay a total shareprice collapse we very excited about our suite of dongles, bangles, tin drums, walkie talkies and bouncy castles.. Yes, you got we're talking 4G and next month intend to transmit from our very own satellite and cover the globe with a single BTS"
For a taster of the real bullshit, see:
http://www.xgtechnology.com/news_pr_1_14_08.asp
On a serious note, it is very obvious that XG management are liars and have a history of faking demos. The first claimed faked demo during their Idigi days is well documented. They then faked the October demo, claiming military grade jamming. It figures they would pull the wool over Tehrahni and rig something.
Even if what they demonstrated had any value, which it doesnt, and was true, which it isnt, you would still have to beleive they were covering up some terrible other limitation elsewhere.
Guesswho, that was the funniest I've read for years :-D
But I'm not retarded, I've been spot on about xG compared to the rabid supporters.......
Fairly Sober: he is Marcie. He pretendie no speakie Eglish velly wellie
"But I'm not retarded, I've been spot on about xG compared to the rabid supporters......."
I 2nd that notion. Backbooner should have been the Oracle in the Matrix. His prophesying abilities go well beyond Nostradamus.
Makes sense Fairly Sober is Marcy, how could he stay away when his dream is falling apart. I got convinced when I read: "Something is happen now and I now what. But Sorry man, I am not going to tell you what!" Only Marcy, that complete idiot Sentec or Paradigmshift (Frederick Walman) could post anything that stupid
It's because you're pretty much the only retarded supporter still following xG. All the others are long gone, ashamed, embarrassed and a lot less wealthy !
I just looked around but didn't see you.
xG is a joke and the many laughs it has given us over years are much appreciated. i wonder what will happen now?
Well done xG-mob. Again you've bribed someone at iii.co.uk to remove me. You must find me exceptionally scary as you're doing everything you can to remove my posts - funny
Its almost embarrassing to watch Danneberg pretend, as Fairly Sober,(a direct reference to his antipathy for Beer is Life) to be some Eastern European, who has a poor ability to construct english, albiet with moments of enlightenment, develop a sudden mission to protect XG.
Its also so obviously Dannenberg, he gets ants in his pants if he isnt posting, and slowly the volume of posts are building up; he is desperate.
Marc is wiped out and that feels really good. He will soon start the blame game and go after Rick and Joe. That has potential to be funny. Come on now Marc and make some noise about how useless these guys are...
Fairly Sober is a funny poster Marc has invented.It would be great to have that Ukrainian guy back to fight him - could be really great fun
Isn't it funny that xG is at all time low and despite some decent turnover the stock doesn't bounce. FINMA has at least 3,5 million more shares to sell. Let's see if the xG mob has found someone to pick them up
xG didn't fake any demo for Tehrani. They arranged six base stations in a very tiny area (a circle about 4 miles in diameter) and drove him among them over a very carefully practiced route (they knew exactly where the dead spots were). And with a single handset (plugged into a laptop to keep it charging because it has an incredibly short battery life) hopping among the 18 frequencies they have available, the system worked. No fakery needed.
But six base stations to support a single handset over such a tiny geographical area!?!?!? And a 10-minute battery life? And Tehrani was impressed?
When xG announced the showcase and invited the media, I knew this was exactly what they had planned. But notice Tehrani was the only one gullible enough to fall for it.
We know it's not a working product they've been testing and it's not of any commercial interest to anyone because it's pretty damn useless. Just as the management and the supporters
What will the pre-money valuation be in the new issue of shares? My guess is $5 million. That would imply a share price of $0.04 and a massive dilution for the current shareholders. Will they issue 250 million new shares @ $0.04? That would raise $10 million (before expenses) to the company... and the story could continue for a while.
It used to be a pretty valuable company but a few people understood it was only a scam and now it's a small small thing that is to become even smaller, a lot smaller
Tehrani's field appears to be VoIP and networking, not digital radio communications. So I'm not surprised that he could be easily impressed by a demonstration of something that really wasn't all that impressive.
I discovered the same trick in college. Being into both computer hardware and software, I'd pick combination projects in both my EE and CS classes. If it was an EE course, I'd emphasize the software aspects; if it was CS, hardware. That always seemed good for an extra grade point.
As usual with Marc he attacks anyone who says anything negative about xG. Funny thing is he and the supporters have been wrong all the way along or they've been lying and the "antis" have been right!
Hi all, since my background is questioned above I figured I should chime in. I have a computer hardware degree from the University of Connecticut. My field is communications and technology and I had EE and CS classes in school. Having said that, is it possible that 50+ engineers involved in this company (I met at least 30-35 of them) have invited the press to their facility to trick them? Yes. Is it likely? No?
In my experience it is tough to get 50 people together to pull off a hoax which will be easy to discover by the first person who does RF analysis.
This gets us to the next point. The company offered to delve into more RF analysis than I had time to go into. I believe I spent 3 hours in the facility and on the road. I do visit hundreds of companies a year and time does not permit me to stay more than a few hours per trip. Having said that, in this case the company made themselves 100% available, stayed past 7:00 pm at night and answered every question I had.
Do I wish I would have hooked the products up to wireless test equipment and monitored interference and moreover hooked up a bank of phones to see exactly how the products respond to real-world noise, interference, etc so as to minimize the above speculation? Yes. But again, there wasn’t time.
I hope this clarifies things.
While we are on the topic, thank you all for your comments but I ask respectfully that we treat each other with dignity and respect. This is obviously a passionate topic but I want you to know that I reserve the right to delete comments which are disrespectful and/or use profanity. And I don’t have time to read them all and being a blog comment policeman is probably not something most of my readers want me to spend time on. So your assistance is appreciated in advance.
Then stop censoring posts that highlight XG's trail of lies to the market on numerous false launches, false claims of DD being conducted by most recently Townes, but before that Gamma and Telefonica!! They have been lying about what they had for years, i.e nothing, only for it to emerge, they're able to make a call on one phone within in very limited environment. Thats hardly an endorsement of commercial viability and still only at beta stage. Don't forget Flash signalling, the flagship invention, quietly diappeared in to oblivion once it was discovered it wasn't worth the paper the patent was filed upon.
Children will be children; as boileroom hacks will be, well, boileroom hacks
Insults and threats, seemingly the only defense of XG, fail to change the history of faked demos, false claims, lies, litigation that come the wake of claiming to have invented something you haven't.
Yes you are and no you are not, and yes you are making a fool of yourself
QED
Could someone tell me what ever happened to Flash Signalling and single cycle modulation? and is part of the 50 plus portfolio of patents?
Could someone please tell me what happened to the Townes Agreement, as per the Press Release of 27 July 2009, where
Townes:
"..is expanding the trial of xG’s xMax technologies to establish a network of base stations in adjoining areas."
Surely if they were expanding their trial to a network, they were in possession of a product ready for deployment, or am I misreading the PR.
Could someone please tell me what happened to the Base stations and clients to whom XG were shipping base stations as per the press release of 14 January 2008 and who they were??
"xG Technology, Inc. (“xG”), the Florida based communications technology business, is pleased to announce that shipments of the Company’s xMax base stations are commencing to markets beyond its initial market in Daytona Beach, Florida, including to new customers in Maryland, South Carolina, Kansas and elsewhere in Florida.
Frank Peake, Deputy COO, said: “It is rewarding to be at the stage where we are supplying a number of new customers in multiple markets who will be deploying their networks using our low cost solution and equipment.”
Could someone please tell me what happened to the Agreement with Gama WHO HAD COMPLETED THEIR DD, as per Press Release of 27 December 2007;
xG Technology, Inc. (“xG” or “the Company”), the communications technology business, is pleased to announce that Gama Group and their subsidiary, Vegatel, have completed their due diligence on xG’s core physical layer technology and its first vertical application, xMax.
"Gama and xG have now entered into a term sheet that defines the parameters for specific xMax commercial applications in Turkey. The term sheet identifies four major parameters of the final agreement including, xG/Gama share of gross profits, xG market fees, Gama capital purchases and xG applications licensed to Gama. The existing territory agreement that is in place between the companies is hereby extended to the end of June 2008 and both companies will endeavour to sign a final agreement for exclusivity in Turkey by the 30th of June."
Note they were SUPPOSEDLY talking profits, fees, etc without even any thing even resembling a product?!?
"The term sheet identifies four major parameters of the final agreement including, xG/Gama share of gross profits, xG market fees, Gama capital purchases and xG applications licensed to Gama."
So, in light of all of this can anyone tell me, whether you would believe XG hadn't rigged the Tehrani demo, or assuming that wasn't as good as it would ever get, whether it would be another 10 years before being able to have 2 simultaneous calls being made.
Can someone please tell me why all those engineers resigned in 2008?
Can someone please tell me why Spartan Mullen don't want to fork up?
And on and on and on
xG is a scam - it's pretty simple
xG si a scam. Any question?
Rich,
No hoax necessary or implied. And I'm certain the vast majority of xG's employees are competent and sincere. My point is that what xG has demonstrated is in no way novel or capable, and they are merely doing their best to create the impression that it is.
Recall when xG first came on the scene they were touting "flash signal", "single cycle modulation", and "tri-state integer modulation". They claimed a single $50,000 base station would be able to cover a 1000 square mile area and support hundreds of users with 4G broadband in the 902-928 MHz unlicensed band. They claimed ultra low power and phenomenal battery life. And anybody with half a brain knew they were full of it.
But it appears they've abandoned these modulation schemes for something more conventional and have now demonstrated a wireless network supporting a single IP stream, which could be as little as 6 kbps depending on the codec they're using for their VoIP. And this wireless network uses six base stations to cover some 20 square miles. And they kept the handset plugged into a laptop to keep it charged because the battery wouldn't last long enough for a demo.
Your headline "xMax Works As Advertised" is exactly what they were hoping for when they invited journalists to their showcase. But pleas, look into it a bit more, consult people who know wireless, and see if you continue to stand by that position.
Yes, the wild claims made were scaled back and the now lesser claims did work as the company claimed. It is not uncommon for companies to make claims which they later decide to scale down. In this case the claims were extraordinary but what I witnessed was still quite impressive.
The handset I used was not plugged in the entire time and for a period of approximately 15 minutes or so it drained a negligible amount of battery – but to be honest I wasn’t really watching the battery so closely as it was acknowledged that the battery life would be a problem.
At the end of the day, the working demo was the working demo and what I saw was documented as accurately as possible.
Although the company’s claims today pale in comparison to what they once thought they could achieve, what I saw hasn’t been duplicated by other companies that I have met with or read about. This of course assumes they are really using the frequencies they say they are.
As I noted in the entry, the issue is whether this technology scales and the battery life problem is an obvious concern for now.
What is challenging for me to understand based on your comments is what the problem is. You are implying the phones can potentially only transmit 6 kbps when the company tells me it is 1 mbps or more.
Before I went down to Florida, most of us didn’t expect anything XG claimed to work as the story seemed too good to be true. I was pleasantly surprised that I found a working network and a massive amount of R&D and monitoring systems and test equipment. For the company to be developing antenna systems and modeling how the human head interferes with the radio signals from their devices while knowing they have a product that doesn’t work seems insane. Sure one person can be insane but all 50 engineers?
I can only verify what I saw and detailed in my post and I acknowledge that it is possible the company is fabricating everything above 6 kbps. But when customers come to purchase this technology, these are the first places they will look – throughput/bandwidth and scalability. It seems crazy to lie about something so basic, crucial and easily verifiable.
Regarding checking with experts. It seems the whole world is an expert on XG Technology and everyone has strong opinions. There is massive search engine pumping of both negative and positive stories. It seems everyone has an agenda.
I don’t have one – except to my readers. I went to visit the company expecting nothing to work. Everything they showed me did work (for the most part and as detailed above) and I reported exactly, 100% what I saw.
I respect your opinion and thanks to it, readers have various viewpoints to consider on this story.
Did you actually see any data traffic move over the network coming anywhere near the "1 mbps or more" that the company told you it was capable of? Or did you only see VoIP traffic? If you only saw VoIP traffic, it could have been as low as 6 kbps depending upon the codec. I'm not saying their network is limited to 6 kbps. But if all you saw was VoIP, you may have only seen a maximum of 6 kbps.
And you have to wonder why they decided to concentrate on VoIP. Early on xMax was all about 4G broadband. Long about 2006 it became all about VoIP, with broadband to follow on later. VoIP is just another type of IP packet to move around, but latency becomes an issue. Seems to me they would have been better off starting off offering dirt cheap broadband access in public spectrum, then working on latency and then offering VoIP. But then again, any average Joe can measure the speed of the connection by timing how long his music files take to download. Not so easy with VoIP.
And you've never heard of anybody else doing VoIP in unlicensed spectrum??? Maybe you should check out http://www.tcmmobile.com/
If xG could reliably move 1 mbps on each of their 18 carriers simultaneously over a distance of 6 or 8 miles in the presence of other users of the ISM band, I would be truly impressed. (If they could do it on each of the 14 channels on each of the 18 carriers, my mind would be truly blown.) I wouldn't get my hopes up until I saw something that hints that it's capable of more than a small number of VoIP calls of unspecified bit rate over a short range.
If the industry thought they had a chance, the stock price wouldn't be languishing near its all-time low.
Marc, no one is *MORE* obsessed about xG than you are. Seek counseling. Huang is right. xG has made numerous false press releases over the years, so just based off of that alone they have absolutely *ZERO* credibility.
Being a shareholder in xG must have made you vomit numerous times I guess. Only suckers hold shares in a company that is crowded with useless people who obviously like to lie.
Good to see investors selling this stock and have awoken to the fact that as with Flash signalling the current proposed technology is nothing more than a beta project and given the ignorance of Bobier and the path being led, there is no commercial value in it.
"For the company to be developing antenna systems and modeling how the human head interferes with the radio signals from their devices while knowing they have a product that doesn’t work seems insane. Sure one person can be insane but all 50 engineers?"
Yep, just as it was insane for XG to tell the market they were shipping BTS to fictitous customers and the promise of numerous impending launches. You are obviously new to XG and their lies, but it will come to you
Why haven't other independent observers written anything on XG demo. It seems strange that one observer who couldn't be bothered to fully examine the tech:
"Do I wish I would have hooked the products up to wireless test equipment and monitored interference and moreover hooked up a bank of phones to see exactly how the products respond to real-world noise, interference, etc so as to minimize the above speculation? Yes. But again, there wasn’t time"
.. should report to the market that Xmax works as advertised. Has he been given options to write favorably, I wonder.
Rich, (I now have share options in XG( Tehrani
I would invite your to re-read the original article writtin by you Patrick Barnard. And not your feed back from one certain Danenbarg who is now your number one fan.
Deciphering xG Technology
We write thousands of stories each month at TMCnet and occasionally among all of this content we get a response to an article which is threatening or involves profanity towards us or one of our writers. Having said that, I happened to forward news about xG Technology to my editorial team a while back and I mentioned to them to be sure to research it carefully as the company is very controversial.
Why are they controversial? Well because they seem to make claim after claim regarding wireless technology which is claimed to be 25 times cheaper than comparable WiMAX equipment at 1,000 times the efficiency - yet it isn't widely deployed. These are not new claims by the way, they are years old.
On the face of it these stats are similar to saying you have created a fusion reactor in a paper cup - and if this is a real technology why is it not being sent to editors worldwide so we can see it for ourselves?
In order to determine the real story, Senior TMC Web Editor Patrick Barnard wrote an article which was well-researched on xG technology and in response he and I both received an email referring to him in a profane manner and the email concluded with a request to have me fire him.
The writer of this email didn't submit any facts which we should be aware of, they just decided to lash out at Patrick for writing a great and balanced article which seemed to conflict with his point of view.
"Do I wish I would have hooked the products up to wireless test equipment and monitored interference and moreover hooked up a bank of phones to see exactly how the products respond to real-world noise, interference, etc so as to minimize the above speculation? Yes. But again, there wasn’t time."
If you couldn't be bothered to properly research XG's lies then don't come back to the market stating Xmax works as advertised because you don't know that.
Dont forget there was a mass walk out of technicians who new Bobier was full of it and didn't have a clue on RF theory.
I just had to quote what "omghf" says about the current network because it's just so ridiculous:
"What they have done is made a product that is soley to introduce the technology. This is a phone, not a smart phone, not any device that would need the original mod. scheme. The company still makes the same claims. This is their first product and it will get them on the board."
Keep in mind this is from a man who has a lot of money invested in xG, has a long history with the people running xG, and even served as CEO of a company they were partnering with to launch xMax a couple years ago.
So let me get this right, Marc. The current product is intended to introduce the technology, but it doesn't use the technology because it doesn't need it? So we shouldn't expect 1000 square miles of 4G coverage with a single base station of the type being used, but xMax is still capable of 1000 square miles of 4G coverage with a single base station?
You really should get your brain looked at, Marc. It appears to be broken.
Rich, I certainly didn't mean to denigrate your background or intend any offense. My point was simply that no one can specialize in everything. So unless you actually design or test digital radio systems on a regular basis you might not be completely familiar with the state of the art and what constitutes a significant advance over it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's probably safe to say that you're more familiar with the detailed capabilities of Cisco's latest VoIP offerings than with the relative merits, limitations and real-world performance of OFDM vs decision-directed equalization, QPSK vs QAM, frequency-hopped vs direct sequence spread spectrum, CDMA vs TDMA, Trellis vs Viterbi vs turbo coding, and MIMO vs single-antenna schemes...right?
For years xG touted a supposed breakthrough called "single cycle modulation". Its principals and backers claimed a huge valuation for the company on the basis of that supposed breakthrough. Unfortunately, their claims violated firmly established fundamental theoretical limits to what's possible in communications. And their CTO's patents revealed that, quite frankly, he has no idea what he's doing.
xG has never demonstrated an ability to deliver on those claims and they never will. But as far as I know, neither have they ever withdrawn those claims. So it seems only proper to evaluate their current claims and demonstrations in that light.
What you saw xG demonstrate was probably real but it simply wasn't very exciting. It could have been done with off-the-shelf technology from many suppliers that's been around for many years. It certainly did not put any meat on their claims to have a radically new and different technology that can operate with orders of magnitude less power or fewer base stations.
All indications are that xG has quietly abandoned their original claims and, without informing their investors, has embarked on a crash program to develop something, *anything* to show for all the time and money invested in it. In other words, they've been engaged in a bait-and-switch operation.
xG may or may not have a viable business selling low-cost wireless phone service using a radio technology with conventional performance. But they certainly do not have a viable business selling a technology that matches the breathless claims they made for it years ago. And that's really all the critics have been saying.
No, a few clueless executives and one incompetent CTO plus 50 reasonably competent engineers who are trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
386 comments? Really? Is this that important? It seems like there are a bunch of grade school children calling each other names over this. Why? You people have all made your stand. Move on.
While the internet has allowed the transmission of news and information to be immediate. Yet it also has allowed people to hide behind the power of a keyboard. You have people like Anon, who hide behind the internet and throw stones and make accusations against people like Rich Tehrani. Rich is a pretty public person. I am sure you can find him at most of the major trade shows in the US. If you want to call him names or accuse him of owning stock in XG, I am sure he is not hard to find in order to discuss your views in person instead of hiding behind an anonomous entry on a blog.
He went to visit XG follwoing up on an article written by one of his editors. They ran a demo for him that worked. He met with multiple people at XG and wrote a blog detailing what he found. So what? His entry was based upon his own observations. For you to challenge his veracity or to make assumptions that he has an agenda is as unfounded as what XG has claimed over the years, according to you.
As to the other anti-XG people, why oh why do you rise to this other guys bait? You are only feeding into him. Move on. I would say you have made your point and provided enough information to make people skeptical about XG and thier claims.
Years have elapsed since xG made its extravagant claims about "single cycle" modulation. During that time they have repeatedly claimed to be "rolling out" their new technology, yet nothing has ever actually materialized. Lots of people have begun to question the veracity of their originally claims.
Finally, they're able to demo something (I won't call it a "product") to a journalist. But then it turns out to contain only the older, off-the-shelf technology because the new, radical, breakthrough technology "isn't needed"?
Give me a break! This is a case of bait-and-switch, nothing less.
Name calling and racist attacks won't get the share price back. It's over and xG has nothing. They've been burning through loads of money by paying useless directors and having a fun time. I'm disgusted by that.
Want to know what's truly obsessed? Trying to harass an xG critic by calling him -- overseas, from Spain -- several dozen times throughout the night even though he's put an auto-answer modem on the line and turned off the ringer and speaker.
Now that's obsessed.
You said you were going to eat that thing and you here have a unique opportunity to really become immortal as being The Internet Clown Nr 1.
Shall we say that if xG hasn't got a customer with at least 1000 paying users in 3 months you'll do it?
Rick,
Please answer my question. Did you ever see any data traffic go across their network? (And I mean outside, over a representative "user distance", not in the lab between antennas two meters apart.) If so, did the speed come anywhere near 1 mbps? Or did you only see VoIP traffic go across their network?
Rick, while you're at it, please answer mine too!
Hi all, to answer some questions and set the record straight. I hate to be a censor but I had to remove all posts containing profanity or derogatory and/or racially offensive comments. I hope I got them all.
I am thrilled to have my blog be a forum for an open dialogue on many communications and tech issues but at the same time I ask again that we all remain respectful of one another’s opinions, nationalities, etc.
Regarding a comment I saw (not sure if it is deleted or not) about me owning stock or being granted options in XG – I am not a shareholder and have not been promised anything by the company. Occasionally I do invest in companies in the industry and join boards, etc if I feel I can help the company/industry by doing so but if I do, it never affects my position on the company(ies) I cover.
I have a responsibility to my readers and my advertisers to be as objective as I can or I lose both.
The VoIP call was the IP traffic I witnessed travel over the network. Had XG shown me 1 Mbps flowing from handset to base station it would not prove that the solution scales to meet the needs of a carrier. 5 handsets at 1 Mbps would not have shown scale either. 10 would not… A potential buyer has to decide if the solution scales to meet their needs as I mentioned. I documented a single handset working at a great distance as we all know well at this point.
Another comment about my qualification as a wireless engineer – I went to the company and documented everything I saw. The post I wrote shows the technology has potential and I mentioned if it can scale, it can be a game changer. Knowing the specifics of the company’s technology is less important to me than seeing it work. And remember, I went to Florida thinking I would not see a working demo. In my experience, the target reader I am writing for is the potential buyer – they want to know if the product works first and the specific technology can be verified by their engineering team.
This does not mean I won’t delve into the company’s technology at a later date. And If I do I will be sure to reference the excellent content from the comments to make sure I don’t miss anything.
Regarding why other members of the press haven’t visited and written about XG Technology, I cannot speak for them but perhaps they are looking at this comment chain and the profane language and insults and that has been a deterrent.
Regarding me seeing the light on this matter and learning that the company’s products and technologies don’t work properly. You have a forum here where you can present your viewpoint. If there is verifiable news on any company which you want to share with me and I believe my readers will benefit from seeing it, I will post it. But to call me names and try to discredit what I documented on video above doesn’t help your cause.
Hi Rich, you've mentioned scaling several times: "A potential buyer has to decide if the solution scales to meet their needs as I mentioned", "I mentioned if it can scale, it can be a game changer", etc.
Scaling isn't just an issue. It's *THE* issue. It's as if a car company took lots of investment money while claiming to have a new engine that can get 300 miles per gallon. Then, after years of breathless PR hype, broken delivery promises, and the revelation that their chief engineer is completely ignorant of the laws of thermodynamics, they proudly drive you around in a prototype car that gets 10 miles per gallon.
And you report "it worked as advertised" and comment parenthetically "a potential buyer will have to decide if it can scale up to 300 MPG".
Well...yes. Yes. Of course they will.
Do you see my point? What xG showed you was *easy* -- and also beside the point, because it's commercially valueless. It's not what they spent years claiming they could do. It's not what they took money from investors claiming they could do. And it's not what has made them so controversial. xG is pulling a full-blown bait-and-switch, and you shouldn't let them get away with it.
Not even try to get an understanding for xG as a company and communicate it is nothing but non-serious journalism. I stick with my earlier statement (that was deleted by the editor) that the author and editor in chief of this blog is an amateur letting a company "use" him as proof of the false claims they made over the years. What this blogger, Rich Tehrani, not seems to understand is the fact that xG is not here to fool any potential buyers of equipment, they're here to fool the investors. Give that a thought and maybe you will reassess your views on xG. xG knows, as everyone reading this, that they will never sell anything to anyone and if you'd done at least some background search on this you would have understood that.
Let's see if this one gets deleted too - if so I will only move this specific discussion to another forum where it's not censored
Rich, thank you for two things -- cleaning up the profanity and providing some clarification. They are both appreciated.
You say that when you went to Florida you didn't expect to see a working demo. Well, I sure expected a working demo.
When I saw the FCC certification report on the BSN250 it was clear to me that they had abandoned Bobier's "flash signal" and had gone with something more conventional like BPSK. (So much for the amazing advantages they had been touting for years, which nobody believed anyway.) So I figured they might actually have something with which to construct a minimal wireless network for dog and pony shows. When they announced the "showcase" and invited the media, I thought "yep".
You say you saw only VoIP traffic, therefore the max bit rate you saw demonstrated could have been as low as 6 kbps. You also say you saw "a single handset working at a great distance". Judging by the spacing of the towers, I would assume this "great distance" was less than two miles. This is *extremely* unimpressive -- especially a single bit stream with 18 frequencies to hop around on to avoid interference.
Scalability aside (which I suspect is *zero*), a single bit stream at 1 mbps in unlicensed spectrum at a range of 1-2 miles would have been impressive. If they could do that on multiple carriers on a given base station simultaneously, that would be even more impressive. And if they could do it in busy spectrum that would be game-changing.
But a single, possibly 6 kpbs stream over a range of less than two miles with 18 frequencies to hop around on? Yawn. And I suspect the low bit rates of VoIP are exactly why they chose VoIP as their "first application". (i.e. I don't believe they would ever attempt to offer broadband IP, much less 4G speeds.) If they could demonstrate more than a few kbps, they definitely would.
I honestly believe that when they put together this "showcase" and invited the media, they were hoping for credulous coverage. It would appear you walked right into it.
Yes Phil, you are absolutely spot on and I marvel at the stupidity of people still buying this stock. But again greed will blind and lead people to stupidly part with their cash despite the obvious signs.
By Rich Tehrani's own admission he couldn't be bothered to properly research what he was being presented:
"Do I wish I would have hooked the products up to wireless test equipment and monitored interference and moreover hooked up a bank of phones to see exactly how the products respond to real-world noise, interference, etc so as to minimize the above speculation? Yes. But again, there wasn’t time"
So for him to come back to market a report Xmax works as advertised is faintly rediculous and not only illustrates his lack of attention to detail but the ease with which he can be duped. "Single cycle" claimed more, further and for less and turned out to be utter drivel, with an unbeleivable number of excuses and lies made up to cover up their shortcomings, to put it mildly. Again, as we've now discovered them to be the utter liars that they are, their preposterous initial and quietly abandoned invention still forms part of the 50 plus patents they boast on their web site.
Again their stated claim on their website about having developed a low cost viop technology leaves a nasty smell as they havent proven as much. But then again they never did as with the previous claims on the single cycle potential.
Where will their nonsense end and more importantly when will they be prosecuted for lying to nomads and a regulated exchange. I shall be amazed if they are able to raise any more cash to keep this charade going, but then again they have dodged and lied their way through numerous tight situations. The worrying thing is that they are convincing liars and greed blinds. They know that.
So in light Bobiers evident ignorance of RF theory, and Mooers evident devious intent in their exising bait and switch, we are now presented with their channel hopping BS in unlicensed, which again they are claiming as a low cost mobile solution, without any demonstrable commercial viability or proof of the tech works. But our Rich has bought into it.
It should be noted these guys already showcased their single cycle modulation to a gathered audience in 2007 and claimed streaming video using their tech which as we now know was completely rigged.
Sadly, we are confronted with an unfortunate set circumstances. An ignorant RF ham with no formal education (who by all accounts was reading Hawkins Big bang when he was inspired, yeh right) and a group of lying and quite obviously unscrupulous individuals in the form of Mooers and Branton who will do all it takes to keep this gravy train alive.
No wonder they avoided Sarbannes Oxley!!
Back, Bart, etc, back off Rich a bit, okay? The guy is a professional journalist and I don't doubt he writes what he honestly thinks. It's not at all helpful to accuse him of being on the take from xG. Save it for those who really deserve it; we certainly know they exist.
There are a lot of niches and specialties in the communications industry and it's simply unreasonable to expect any one person to be intimately familiar with every subtle detail of every last one of them.
Rich's specialty is the VoIP industry. While xG claims to be working on a product that happens to use VoIP, the focus of their claims is a supposedly breakthrough RF modem technology. So they are best evaluated by someone familiar with the theory and state of the art of digital radio modems. I think Rich understands that now and I for one am content to let him cover the company as he wishes.
I think our friend Marc is more than a little reminiscent of the Dark Knight's version of The Joker: he loves to draw the worst out of people. So don't indulge him.
Claude, to be a professional journalist you have to very careful and insightful on what you're doing when you're writing about listed companies. You must understand there is a stock market out there that will try to interpret your conclusions. In some cases, like in the case of xG, there are forces that will do anything to push out and further distribute anything positive that is said about xG. Not having that in mind when going there, writing and posting articles will put you in a very risky position and that is exactly what has happened to Rich here. To be straightforward, I don't doubt he knows his VoIP pieces but he certainly doesn't understand how the stock market works AND if he'd done his homework/or asked someone to help him he would have seen all the warning signs. As it stands now he's been used by xG in a very delicate situation as they're almost out of money and his article is the their main argument towards investors to invest in the company(look here, it works - pointing at the article - see further down) for more . As I stated previously, the case here is that xG is not here to fool any telco buyers, they're here to fool INVESTORS. Claude, don't you think a journalist should have the integrity and understanding about these issues when writing articles about listed companies.
I even found this a week ago in a Swedish on-line magazine www.realtid.se and this is at the bottom of the article and a quote by xG's Investor Relations Director Jonas Krepper:
" - We're working on with our technology.
- We have a network that is running now.
- Our technology works very well.
Krepper referring to an article in the American magazine TMC Net, where a journalist writes about xG and its new network."
Rich and Claude, xG is actively using rich's article to raise more money and Claude you know putting money in to this is to be fooled. That article is theur main argument in the desperate search for money.
Rich and Claude, do you now understand how important integrity is for a journalist and the utter importance of doing some background checks?
Well, XGT.L is down from $18 to $0.25 - why do you think that has happened?
That happened because xG sent out numerous press releases making false claims and lying about the the interest and customers. When people like Phil Karn, myself and other started posting about xG it quickly started to go down. So, it went on because of lies and down because of the truth being revealed.
"Can someone please tell me why all those engineers resigned in 2008?"
Don't forget even "The Face of xG" left in 2008. He only came back to xG recently.
Who's "The Face of xG"?
Chris Whiteley is the "face of xG".
Saga comes to a close?
Let me make clear that I do NOT believe Rich is on the take. I don't doubt his integrity in any way. I just think he could have used a more critical eye in his observations and evaluation. And I do feel that he may have unwittingly played right into the hands of the company
Marc, the rise from .27 to 18 was due to unmitigated hype. The fall from 18 to .25 is due to the total lack of substance behind the unmitigated hype.
One wonders where the share price would be today if you hadn't popped a fuse, launched your harassment campaign, and attracted so much attention from people who actually understand digital wireless.
Its fairly obvious that Bobier certainly isnt the visionary XG would have everyone beleive. His flagship Single Cycle was borne out of ingnorance of RF so its hard to see how he could now come up with anything of value in terms of this latest "Channel hopping" effort that the rest of the industry would have known about.
Karn as with the futility of single cycle has already shown this latest hopeless deceiving enterprise to be a waste of time.
Scream shout insult all you want.. Doesn't change the fact that youre chained to a sinking ship
xG has nothing and we all know that - let them keep on bashing out ridiculous press releases - they are getting more and more desperate by the day as they're out of money. They'll do anything to get anyone to invest and we'll see, maybe they can pull it off again so Mooers and Branton can keep on "taking" $70k a month for doing nothing.
"xMax is the product of xG Technology's extensive R&D activity, a $100 million international effort that involves companies in the US, Europe and Asia. xG's patent portfolio, which now includes 50 US and more than 100 international
patents and pending patent applications, is being developed with the goal of bringing lower-cost communications to consumers"
Same lies and BS they've been feeding for years.
Which companies Europe and Asia?? Gama?? Telefonica??
50 Patents for what?? Single cycle.. Thats toilet paper
$100 million of developing a rigged demo to handle one call.
Delusional lies
The only garbage talking has been from XG with their lies in print. You've made no money and if it were having fun you wouldn't be going crazy the whole time.
Sadly for you the ship will sink before you are able to unload as XG's shortcomings and lies unravel
The problem with xG is that they don't have a product, have no idea how to get one and what they have they could have got for a couple of hundred k dollars anywhere. The reason they're trying to show they have something is they need to fool some investor to invest as they have run dry. I don't think Rich can invest that money but he certainly got them a small step closer to winding up some innocent investor.
I agree with you, Bart. This company does need to be examined critically in light of the many extravagant promises they've made and never withdrawn. Not to mention the, shall we say, questionable personalities surrounding it.
Frequency hopping and direct sequence are the two main forms of spread spectrum. Hedy Lamarr's famous patent was about frequency hopping. She wanted to make a radio guided torpedo resistant to jamming. Her implementation had identical player piano rolls controlling the frequencies of both transmitter and receiver. It was unworkable, but the theory was sound. It just had to wait for the right technology.
All forms of spread spectrum reduce interference by what's called the "process gain", the ratio between the spread and unspread bandwidths. The wider the spread signal and the slower the data rate, the greater the process gain. So a 6 kb/s VoIP modem operating in the 902-928 MHz band could have a 36 dB process gain, but a 1 Mb/s modem would only have about 14 dB.
Frequency hopping is especially effective in rejecting strong narrow band interference. You add enough interleaving and error correction coding so that when the signal hops on the interferer, the coding simply reconstructs the missing data. Direct sequence can reject narrow band interference with notch filters, but it takes more work. It's better suited to dedicated spectrum, like CDMA cellular and GPS.
OFDM (orthogonal frequency division multiplexing) is especially popular these days (e.g., 802.11g) because it resists multipath and narrow band interference. You can think of it as frequency hopping on all the hops simultaneously. The low symbol rate makes it resistant to multipath, and coding and interleaving again deals with narrow band interference.
It certainly doesn't sound like xG has come up with anything new. I still think they should just stick some OEM WiFi modules into their radios. They'd work better and they'd certainly be cheaper.
Claude, what is your opinion regarding the thought that xG may actually have done pretty much all that can be done in the 902-928 MHz band, given the power limitations?
i.e. there's a good chance the xG engineers are a pretty crack team (once they disabused management of the thought that Bobier was competent), but simple physics and the limitations the FCC places on the 902-928 MHz band mean that no matter how good they are, their grand vision just isn't going to happen.
"i.e. there's a good chance the xG engineers are a pretty crack team (once they disabused management of the thought that Bobier was competent),"
Believe me. They all know Bobier is an extremely incompetent CTO, but they have no choice, They have to continue beating their heads against a wall trying to overcome Shannon's law which will never ever ever happen.
But if they're truly competent engineers, they would know and understand Shannon. I could certainly believe they are working on, and apparently have, a fully operational wireless IP system for the 902-928 MHz band that is as good as anybody could produce. But I simply can't believe they're actively attempting to violate Shannon. That would be like an automotive engineer attempting to violate the first law of thermodynamics. An unschooled hillbilly (who supposedly gets his ideas while reading Hawking) working to violate Shannon I can believe. But educated engineers? No way.
Perhaps what Rich saw -- work on diffraction around/through human heads -- is an attempt to push another tenth of a dB toward Shannon. Perhaps they know that 98%, 99%, 99.9%, etc., is theoretically attainable, but they're just playing along with their CTO's instructions to achieve 101% (or 2000%, which the range and capacity claims would imply).
Btw guys, what happened to Professor Schwartz? You used to talk a lot about how he endorsed xG. He has left along with Telefonica, Gama, NGW, Townes, Treco, FarReach, the $57 million pre-order, all the NOMADs, PR-agencies etc etc
As an R&D company, how come their R&D expenses are listed as zero on the AIM?
The only way to know if xG has done all they can with the limitations of the Part 15 rules on 902-928 MHz is to rigorously test their equipment, something they have not yet done.
That said, it's safe to say that 802.11 has already done just about all that can be done within the Part 15 rules. So why re-invent the wheel? To sell it to people who haven't yet learned that the wheel exists?
Rich, more and more people are questioning your integrity and judgement and I wonder why you're hiding for the fact xG is using your article as PR/verification. Look at this post from iii.co.uk:
"01:03
Re: More news.
Beerson
ROTFL! It looks like our little screech monkey Marc has been all over that blog. I was wondering what happened to him. It's good to know he's still out and about and hasn't yet stuck a barrel in his mouth.
And wow, xG played Tehrani big time. He walks right into their PR stunt, writes "XMax works as advertised" and xG headlines their web site with his quotes. Hilarious"
Why is everyone still talking about violating Shannon? That only applied to Joe "Fraud"ier's "Flash" or "Single-cycle" or narrow pulse technologies, all of which were abandoned in early 2008. The BSN200's and TX110's were the last to use it. The current pair of products use a very ordinary protocol.
There are no longer wild expectations. They just wanted to make some limited mobile calls to keep investors around. The more testing they do, however, the more the real world limitations will rear their ugly heads.
But you have to hand it to these guys, they are brilliant beyond words at raising money from clueless investors, and I suspect they are going to do it again. What a pity, but I guess it may save some jobs for a while.
"But you have to hand it to these guys, they are brilliant beyond words at raising money from clueless investors, and I suspect they are going to do it again. What a pity, but I guess it may save some jobs for a while."
Let's hope you're wrong - if the guys working there have any knowledge they will find new jobs. No investor really deserves to get ripped off.
Funny that Marc keeps on shouting "Shannon is dead"!
Rich,
You have a standing invitation to visit our lab to evaluate our gear using any test equipment that you choose. We will do whatever we can to make ourselves available to you.
Sincerely,
xG Team
"You have a standing invitation to visit our lab to evaluate our gear using any test equipment that you choose. We will do whatever we can to make ourselves available to you.
Sincerely,
xG Team"
Ha, I knew it all along that xG directors have been reading/posting to xG forums.
"But I simply can't believe they're actively attempting to violate Shannon."
What I was implying Bart is that the engineering group has to do whatever J.B. wants even if it doesn't make sound engineering sense, because of the fear of losing their jobs. A prime example is Tony Rodriguez (hardware manager) who was fired last December, because he voiced his technical opinion too much.
I've been right about everything. Can't understand why you're shouting like a 5-year-old
"That´s right, Tony should have shut up and shoved that Motorola shit up his ass."
Well maybe if Joe B. would have listened to him that phone wouldn't have gotten so hot that you could fry a freakin egg on top of it. BTW, I like my eggs over easy
xG management never was too bright about anything other than scamming investors. Should you take the advice of a 20+ year Motorola veteran, or should you listen to a high school educated hillbilly hick? The answer should be quite obvious to even an absolute drooling moron.
"Anon"? My name is Chez Hanson!
You're darned right it didn't violate Shannon, which is why it didn't work! It would have had to in order to meet the claims Joe Fraudier was making about the system.
Besides, my POINT was, all that junk was abandoned in early 2008. The current products use none of it at all! Which is why they can at least make a SINGLE mobile phone call in a carefully orchestrated demo. They never came close to that with the "magic modulation" schemes.